Massive X - the thread

[pixel85]

I just used the extreme example of idiocy that is already on Youtube. Just change Massive X with movie title and NI with a movie director and you can find tons of videos with sentences like this.

No. You displayed an extreme level of idiocy.

Well for now you: don't understand what a reductio ad absurdum and sarcasm is. You make up a problem from nothing, apparently got offended and you insulted me twice while I did nothing to you. Maybe you should build a thicker skin as written conversation may lead to a lot of misunderstandings.
If you want to see why you got offended for no reason: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

[elxsound]

Sadly you don't get it, or simply choose so through willful ignorance. I understand exactly what you were attempting to do, but you still don't understand why you should not have done it in the first place.

I stand by what I have written, so don't start talking to be about needing thicker skin if you didn't like my response.

[PatchAdamz]

Here is an experiment in sound design.

This is a single preset done with Massive X.
It uses extensive controllers to allow live playing changes, some automated, some triggered.

As it plays, morphs, additions, subtractions of elements are done on the fly throughout.

This demonstrates the capability Massive X has to create unique, "outside the box" instruments with interesting controllers.

X-Game:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -massive-x

I like what you've done there. It's wonderful, what can be accomplished with a single preset.

Yes, outstanding!

One question, are all the effects also part of the preset?

All effects are part of the preset.

That preset includes controllers for the effects, filters, tone, wave positions, Pulse width, individual OSC volumes, etc.

There are a lot of subtle changes that can be done due to the modular nature of Massive X and the controllers.

The effects actually don't sound bad.

[realtrance]

Here is an experiment in sound design.

This is a single preset done with Massive X.
It uses extensive controllers to allow live playing changes, some automated, some triggered.

As it plays, morphs, additions, subtractions of elements are done on the fly throughout.

This demonstrates the capability Massive X has to create unique, "outside the box" instruments with interesting controllers.

X-Game:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -massive-x

I like what you've done there. It's wonderful, what can be accomplished with a single preset.

Yes, outstanding!

One question, are all the effects also part of the preset?

All effects are part of the preset.

That preset includes controllers for the effects, filters, tone, wave positions, Pulse width, individual OSC volumes, etc.

There are a lot of subtle changes that can be done due to the modular nature of Massive X and the controllers.

The effects actually don't sound bad.

First relevant post in what feels like years!

[perpetual3]

I know that there is an extremely subjective component to “sound,” but even considering all its flaws, after some considerable time with MX, Serum, Phase Plant, and TAL Mod (I will explain in a moment), amongst the wavetables MX quite clearly to me has a unique and distinctive sound that I personally prefer in most cases (despite lack of per voice unison and panning and lack of direct output bypassing global unison engine).

Indeed, even though I felt that PhasePlant has the best UI and best specs on paper I felt that core effects such as the delay and reverb did not transparently blend in with the source. And considering the cost of PhasePlant, I will probably pick up Bitwig to take advatange of the Grid if I want that kind of deep modularity.

Ignoring the wavetables for a moment, I also decided to see how each Serum and PhasePlant sound using either basic sawtooth waveshapes in Serum or the analog osc in PhasePlant, duplicating a “wide bass” present I use in TAL Mod for both my music and as a baseline in comparisons to other synths. I fully expected Serum and PhasePlant to blow TAL Mod away but to my surprise, TAL Mod produced a deeper sub (using osc 3) and richer multivoice unison osc 1 and 2. TAL Mod’s dual filter structure is surprisingly deep, and I found that for virtual analog sounds requiring a deep sub and wide unison mids, TAL Mod is simply fantastic (especially considering the price).

Out of the wavetables, MX, despite lack of osc panning and per voice unison has a much wider, deeper and for lack of a better word, richer stereo image. I’ll have to run somewhere more tests to see how I fully feel about how it stacks up to TAL Mod.

Finally, I don’t feel that it sounds like Reaktor. I still use RAZOR fairly often, and of course some Reaktor ensembles (CloudLab is simply stunning).

[perpetual3]

Here is an experiment in sound design.

This is a single preset done with Massive X.
It uses extensive controllers to allow live playing changes, some automated, some triggered.

As it plays, morphs, additions, subtractions of elements are done on the fly throughout.

This demonstrates the capability Massive X has to create unique, "outside the box" instruments with interesting controllers.

X-Game:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -massive-x

I like what you've done there. It's wonderful, what can be accomplished with a single preset.

Yes, outstanding!

One question, are all the effects also part of the preset?

All effects are part of the preset.

That preset includes controllers for the effects, filters, tone, wave positions, Pulse width, individual OSC volumes, etc.

There are a lot of subtle changes that can be done due to the modular nature of Massive X and the controllers.

The effects actually don't sound bad.

Effects seem outstanding to me.

[perpetual3]

Please - let’s stop this unproductive and unpleasant behavior. No one can say that it’s due to a YouTuber or allegedly dishonest reviewer.

Good vibes, even if people are critical of the synth.

[collider]

You can even find instruction/tutorials how to make your own rant videos to boost views https://sproutvideo.com/blog/how-to-fil ... html#close

Holy f**king shit. Unbelievable.

[pixel85]

Out of the wavetables, MX, despite lack of osc panning and per voice unison has a much wider, deeper and for lack of a better word, richer stereo image.

It definitely has. 2 voice unisono on 1 osc with Stereo Image knob at 50% and it's already huge. Or with stereo enhancer effect it's also super easy to fill entire stereo image without any additional 'tricks'. It's definitely great thing about MX.

[felis]

Waiting for Massive XXX...

Just google it.

[perpetual3]

Out of the wavetables, MX, despite lack of osc panning and per voice unison has a much wider, deeper and for lack of a better word, richer stereo image.

It definitely has. 2 voice unisono on 1 osc with Stereo Image knob at 50% and it's already huge. Or with stereo enhancer effect it's also super easy to fill entire stereo image without any additional 'tricks'. It's definitely great thing about MX.

What exactly is unisono? Is that just unison in mono?

[Functional]

Out of the wavetables, MX, despite lack of osc panning and per voice unison has a much wider, deeper and for lack of a better word, richer stereo image.

It definitely has. 2 voice unisono on 1 osc with Stereo Image knob at 50% and it's already huge. Or with stereo enhancer effect it's also super easy to fill entire stereo image without any additional 'tricks'. It's definitely great thing about MX.

What exactly is unisono? Is that just unison in mono?

It's misspelled "unison" and also unison in couple of languages, such as finnish or german

[Functional]

At this point its safe to say that the manual will be released when the product is finished.

The product is already mostly finished, regardless of whenever it has a manual or not. And if you have any questions regarding functionalities of different elements, you can always simply ask here. We know now pretty much what everything does here aside from the details of gorilla, random and jitter mode (although the latter two, I think can more or less be figured out fairly quickly)

[perpetual3]

Out of the wavetables, MX, despite lack of osc panning and per voice unison has a much wider, deeper and for lack of a better word, richer stereo image.

It definitely has. 2 voice unisono on 1 osc with Stereo Image knob at 50% and it's already huge. Or with stereo enhancer effect it's also super easy to fill entire stereo image without any additional 'tricks'. It's definitely great thing about MX.

What exactly is unisono? Is that just unison in mono?

It's misspelled "unison" and also unison in couple of languages, such as finnish or german

That’s it? The write-up at CDM also mentioned Unisono...

[Functional]

That’s it? The write-up at CDM also mentioned Unisono...

Yeah that's it. Unisono can be used instead of unison if you want to sound fancy but it still means one and only thing: unison. The reason why you might meet every now and then "unisono" is because it was used in Germany where lot of the classical tradition stems from. For example, in some European countries (such as Germany, Finland, Russia), we still use "H" in musical notation instead of "B" (not everywhere though, just mostly in classical circles) and Bb is instead just B. Why? Because Germany and very conservative conservatories.