Softube Fix Phaser

[chk071]

Yep, that's why i'm hesitating... as good as it sounds, it shouldn't use more CPU than a quite CPU heavy soft synth.

Guess i'll pass for now, and demo in the future. Maybe they manage to get CPU usage a bit down with a future update (i won't count on it though...).

Maybe just stick with Phazor? Or ask Reveal sound to release the phaser in Spire as a plugin

I already asked them if they consider to make a fx only version of Spire. As usual, they consider it. Maybe with Spire 2.

[Halonmusic]

Yep, that's why i'm hesitating... as good as it sounds, it shouldn't use more CPU than a quite CPU heavy soft synth.

Guess i'll pass for now, and demo in the future. Maybe they manage to get CPU usage a bit down with a future update (i won't count on it though...).

Maybe just stick with Phazor? Or ask Reveal sound to release the phaser in Spire as a plugin

I already asked them if they consider to make a fx only version of Spire. As usual, they consider it. Maybe with Spire 2.

Oh cool. Its a great phaser

[ProducerHive]

Only just heard about this, will have to check it out.

[lwj]

All 3 of the fix effects are really tasty and easy to work with.. I never noticed them taking that much CPU though? Softube's stuff in general performs really well.

[jens]

Whether you noticed or not - it certainly DOES take a huge amount of CPU, be it for a phaser in particular or an effect-plugin in general - dunno how they managed that.

[lwj]

hmm yeah I see now.. that's not good. Kinda like the Vari Comp they made for NI. The other 2 (flanger and doubler) are very light though. I use those the most.

[jens]

Those allpass filters don't run on wishful thinking, you know.

Well, they kind of do, I'd say...

it's almost certainly NOT the allpass filters using up all those cycles, since switching between 2 and 10 stages makes no noticeable difference.

[jens]

hmm yeah I see now.. that's not good. Kinda like the Vari Comp they made for NI. The other 2 (flanger and doubler) are very light though. I use those the most.

Yes, it becomes kinda ridiculous if comparing it with the Eventide Instant MK2 with all its gorgeous analog modelling which uses about one fifth of what the Fix Phaser uses...

I still like it, but damn, it's greedy!

[escalona]

hmm yeah I see now.. that's not good. Kinda like the Vari Comp they made for NI. The other 2 (flanger and doubler) are very light though. I use those the most.

Yes, it becomes kinda ridiculous if comparing it with the Eventide Instant MK2 with all its gorgeous analog modelling which uses about one fifth of what the Fix Phaser uses...

I still like it, but damn, it's greedy!

[jens]

Ouch!

[lwj]

Yeah, always makes me wonder why some plug-ins are such resource hogs and others are not. Sure, some processes are going to be more intensive by design, but still... I mean it can't all be down to devs not giving a damn.

[chk071]

Those were my exact findings as well.

[jens]

Yeah, always makes me wonder why some plug-ins are such resource hogs and others are not. Sure, some processes are going to be more intensive by design, but still... I mean it can't all be down to devs not giving a damn.

I assume it has a lot to do with:

- if and where and how they use oversampling

- if and where and how they make use of instruction-sets such as AVX2

- if and where and how they use assembler

- how much time and effort they are willing and able to put into improving/streamlining the code


All in all I guess it's a mixture of ability, development ressources and willingness.

My assumption is that Softube aren't amongst the higher ranks regarding any of these.

For some reason they manage to sell their plugins as they are at insane prices without even being
very nice to their customers.

It's weird.

[lwj]

My assumption is that Softube aren't amongst the higher ranks regarding any of these.

For some reason they manage to sell their plugins as they are at insane prices without even being
very nice to their customers.

It's weird.

Haha, I have a lot of Softube plug-ins and I rate them highly. In general they sound really good, are light on CPU and latency and they tend have a character and sound that just works. This appears to be exception, although the times I used it, the CPU use apparently didn't cause me any problems or I would've noticed. Support has been helpful and friendly as well.

The tone of their marketing is off though. A bit too jovial and hip, like we're all in a indie rock band but at least they're trying not to be dull and faceless.

[chk071]

I like Softube. Their free Saturation knob plugin, and also the reverbs they did for NI are pretty nice. Fix Phaser sounds absolutely wesome too, as i mentioned, by far the best i heard in phaser plugins, it's just that ridiculous CPU hit which prevents me from buying.