I already asked them if they consider to make a fx only version of Spire. As usual, they consider it. Maybe with Spire 2.Halonmusic wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:01 pmMaybe just stick with Phazor? Or ask Reveal sound to release the phaser in Spire as a pluginchk071 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:56 pm Yep, that's why i'm hesitating... as good as it sounds, it shouldn't use more CPU than a quite CPU heavy soft synth.
Guess i'll pass for now, and demo in the future. Maybe they manage to get CPU usage a bit down with a future update (i won't count on it though...).
Softube Fix Phaser
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Oh cool. Its a great phaserchk071 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:18 pmI already asked them if they consider to make a fx only version of Spire. As usual, they consider it. Maybe with Spire 2.Halonmusic wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:01 pmMaybe just stick with Phazor? Or ask Reveal sound to release the phaser in Spire as a pluginchk071 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:56 pm Yep, that's why i'm hesitating... as good as it sounds, it shouldn't use more CPU than a quite CPU heavy soft synth.
Guess i'll pass for now, and demo in the future. Maybe they manage to get CPU usage a bit down with a future update (i won't count on it though...).
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 9 Jul, 2019
Only just heard about this, will have to check it out.
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
All 3 of the fix effects are really tasty and easy to work with.. I never noticed them taking that much CPU though? Softube's stuff in general performs really well.
- KVRAF
- 23613 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Whether you noticed or not - it certainly DOES take a huge amount of CPU, be it for a phaser in particular or an effect-plugin in general - dunno how they managed that.
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
hmm yeah I see now.. that's not good. Kinda like the Vari Comp they made for NI. The other 2 (flanger and doubler) are very light though. I use those the most.
- KVRAF
- 23613 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
- KVRAF
- 23613 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes, it becomes kinda ridiculous if comparing it with the Eventide Instant MK2 with all its gorgeous analog modelling which uses about one fifth of what the Fix Phaser uses...
I still like it, but damn, it's greedy!
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- KVRian
- 1397 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”
- KVRAF
- 23613 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Ouch!
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
Yeah, always makes me wonder why some plug-ins are such resource hogs and others are not. Sure, some processes are going to be more intensive by design, but still... I mean it can't all be down to devs not giving a damn.
- KVRAF
- 23613 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I assume it has a lot to do with:
- if and where and how they use oversampling
- if and where and how they make use of instruction-sets such as AVX2
- if and where and how they use assembler
- how much time and effort they are willing and able to put into improving/streamlining the code
All in all I guess it's a mixture of ability, development ressources and willingness.
My assumption is that Softube aren't amongst the higher ranks regarding any of these.
For some reason they manage to sell their plugins as they are at insane prices without even being
very nice to their customers.
It's weird.
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
Haha, I have a lot of Softube plug-ins and I rate them highly. In general they sound really good, are light on CPU and latency and they tend have a character and sound that just works. This appears to be exception, although the times I used it, the CPU use apparently didn't cause me any problems or I would've noticed. Support has been helpful and friendly as well.
The tone of their marketing is off though. A bit too jovial and hip, like we're all in a indie rock band but at least they're trying not to be dull and faceless.
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I like Softube. Their free Saturation knob plugin, and also the reverbs they did for NI are pretty nice. Fix Phaser sounds absolutely wesome too, as i mentioned, by far the best i heard in phaser plugins, it's just that ridiculous CPU hit which prevents me from buying.