Ain't that the truth. 12+ years been doing this and only now I've come to realize you don't need expensive plugins to make good music. Not sure why it took me so long to come to that truth. They are good liars.an-electric-heart wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:33 pm As far as effects go, I wont pay over $30 (maybe $50) for anything anymore. A long time ago, before Waves started the constant sale tactic, I bought both the SSL bundle and the API bundle for about $300 each... but I think that was a product of my naivety at the time, I think I just thought they must be awesome products because of the prices, I still use them, but really I could get by with anything these days, it's not what you use, it's your knowledge and skills.
At the end of the day, in the current climate I think all the bases are covered with cheap or even free plugins, companies just need to get with the times and realize $30 plugins are the way of the future.![]()
The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?
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- KVRist
- 480 posts since 17 Mar, 2012 from Montreal
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
It's not naivety, it's what shit cost back in those days and I guarantee you they were both on sale. Stuff is just cheaper these days mostly.an-electric-heart wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:33 pm As far as effects go, I wont pay over $30 (maybe $50) for anything anymore. A long time ago, before Waves started the constant sale tactic, I bought both the SSL bundle and the API bundle for about $300 each... but I think that was a product of my naivety at the time, I think I just thought they must be awesome products because of the prices, I still use them, but really I could get by with anything these days, it's not what you use, it's your knowledge and skills.
At the end of the day, in the current climate I think all the bases are covered with cheap or even free plugins, companies just need to get with the times and realize $30 plugins are the way of the future.![]()
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 811 posts since 10 Sep, 2015 from You haven't unlocked this character yet
It looks like the VSM-3 is going for $149 retail, not $299. Hmmm.
Anyway, about that conversation earlier about Transferred Spectrasonics licenses not being entitled to the same discount prices on major version upgrades. I email Spectrasonics about this earlier and they emailed me back saying:
The wave-particle duality in Quantum Mechanics makes more sense than this. If I analyze the sentence structure, I could devise a deeper meaning and different understanding but...c'mon now.
Anyway, about that conversation earlier about Transferred Spectrasonics licenses not being entitled to the same discount prices on major version upgrades. I email Spectrasonics about this earlier and they emailed me back saying:
Yet, on their website they state: "All license-transferred Spectrasonics Instruments are eligible for both upgrades and updates, but not necessarily all the same special upgrade pricing offers for new versions. Please note that purchasing an instrument new from an authorized Spectrasonics dealer is the only way to retain the complete access to all of our special upgrade offers.""Transferred licenses are eligible for the same discount as a retail purchased instrument in regards to upgrades."
The wave-particle duality in Quantum Mechanics makes more sense than this. If I analyze the sentence structure, I could devise a deeper meaning and different understanding but...c'mon now.
...and the electron responded, "what wall?"
- KVRAF
- 11332 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
So sounds more and more like it’s gonna be sub time.elxsound wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:14 pm Lower prices? Pfff. People prefer a subscription model to a license. Just ask Avid.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
PA wrote:Today we have discontinued our PickPack Rent-To-Own model!
Let me give you the Good News for all ACTIVE PickPackers first:
If your PickPack plan was cancelled by us today - and we have cancelled ALL active plans a few minutes ago - you now OWN all 10 plugins you originally selected in your Pick Pack. Full and unlimited licenses. This one is on us!
No further payments will be deducted from your credit card or PayPal, even if you have just started PickPack recently. Whatever the remaining balance for your PickPack plan would have been, this is our gift to you.
Please note:
If YOU have cancelled your Pick Pack in the past (or stopped paying, which is technically the same), you will unfortunately NOT get your 10 plugins as full licenses. We hope you understand.
Now, why did we stop PickPacking?
Something bigger, more flexible and ultimately better is coming July 15th! A few days ago we have already started to improve the Dynamic Discounts for those of you who love to simply buy plugins, and we have lowered many plugin prices recently as well. So buying plugins will be more affordable in between promotions from now on. Buy 6 plugins, get 60% off any day of the week, for example.
Then - and this will be the main news next week! - we are about to launch a totally new system, which will enable each and everyone of you out there to use large numbers of our titles at really affordable pricing!
We are sure you have seen some of the NEW plugins we are releasing July 15th. Lots of new brands, and a total of 14 new plugins to be released in July and August.
We have seen many of you commenting on social media, worrying about how you will be able to access all of these plugins without breaking the bank. Don't worry, we've got you.
We will present you with the Deal Of Your Lifetime next week!
Over time, our portfolio has grown to 100+ plugins from 28 brands, and we are determined to make ALL of them available to as many people as possible, and as fair and affordable as possible, of course.
Please stay tuned!
Dirk & The PA Team
*EOL = End Of Life
- KVRAF
- 25036 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
er... whatever man. Sorry for you!SAW75 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:25 pm They have zero integrity. Situation normal.
I don't know how people sleep at night. Corruption from the top to the bottom. Everywhere. Little children are brought up to be corrupt. Generation after generation increasing corruption. The total and complete annihilation of integrity is almost complete.
Human beings are animals. They have returned to having nothing inside. Empty.
I just don't know what any of this has got to do with this thread.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 18049 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Would be great to see them really turn the industry on it's head witha $5 sub
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- KVRist
- 85 posts since 20 Dec, 2018
Damn, should have picked a pack before they packed it up.thecontrolcentre wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:45 pmPA wrote:Today we have discontinued our PickPack Rent-To-Own model!
Let me give you the Good News for all ACTIVE PickPackers first:
If your PickPack plan was cancelled by us today - and we have cancelled ALL active plans a few minutes ago - you now OWN all 10 plugins you originally selected in your Pick Pack. Full and unlimited licenses. This one is on us!
No further payments will be deducted from your credit card or PayPal, even if you have just started PickPack recently. Whatever the remaining balance for your PickPack plan would have been, this is our gift to you.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 18049 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
What is it you are being told that you think is a lie? And by whom?
- KVRAF
- 5383 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
SAW75 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:25 pmThe total and complete annihilation of integrity is almost complete.
F E E D
Y O U R
F L O W
Y O U R
F L O W
- KVRAF
- 11332 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Well, how else is everyone going to be able to afford ALL of their subs?el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:55 pmWould be great to see them really turn the industry on it's head witha $5 sub![]()
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- KVRAF
- 3086 posts since 4 May, 2012
Indeed. Example of a great company. I'm pleased for those jammy bastards.Puddi wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:57 pmDamn, should have picked a pack before they packed it up.thecontrolcentre wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:45 pmPA wrote:Today we have discontinued our PickPack Rent-To-Own model!
Let me give you the Good News for all ACTIVE PickPackers first:
If your PickPack plan was cancelled by us today - and we have cancelled ALL active plans a few minutes ago - you now OWN all 10 plugins you originally selected in your Pick Pack. Full and unlimited licenses. This one is on us!
No further payments will be deducted from your credit card or PayPal, even if you have just started PickPack recently. Whatever the remaining balance for your PickPack plan would have been, this is our gift to you.
- KVRAF
- 25036 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes, absolutely! Wish I was one of those lucky bastards! 
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 811 posts since 10 Sep, 2015 from You haven't unlocked this character yet
Pick-a-Pack discontinued...and just like that, the hand of God giveth life, and taketh away. Congrats to all of you. I hope none of those licenses are NFR. That would be quite unfortunate.
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...and the electron responded, "what wall?"
