Massive X - the thread

[vurt]

I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.

that makes elmo cry

[dionenoid]

I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.

Thanx for that reply. It was extremely useful. Especially in this topic about a NI product.

[vurt]

I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.

Thanx for that reply. It was extremely useful. Especially in this topic about a NI product.

its helped me rethink my whole outlook on life

[McLilith]

if you do that they send a team of ninjas to break in and install the rest.
theres also unconfirmed reports they put sand in people clean socks and underwear.

In that case, I'm glad I decided to install the complete Komplete 12!

[40watt]

IMHO MassiveX is a typical NI launch, huge hype, good core product, but unfinished, and it may never be...

I dunno about hype. There was a complete drought of info in the few months prior to release. No one really knew what to expect honestly or if there might be another delay. And on release day they kind of just snuck out a brief but uninformative promo video on YouTube.

It’s like this year’s Summer sale. It was the most half hearted sale ever. They didn’t even update their own website or send emails out until a few days after the sale had already started.

Hype, I kind of meant by the community, not NI. Lets face it unless you have been living under a rock for the last 2 years everyone knew it was coming.....much like the Summer Sale. Are we too expectant in thinking that a company that size would release a solid product of first release, in this case I don't think so, but I do think we possibly put developers under way to much expectation.

As for the sale, I did see lots of complaints it was only on upgrades, well NI's Summer of Sound sale has always been about upgrades ... aint nothing new there....

[SLiC]

Summer sale followed by Black Friday sale followed by New Year sale then the Easter sale....rinse. repeat.
Does anyone pay full price ever? I genuinely can't remember the last time I bought music software that wasn't 50% off other than U-HE and Spectrasonics stuff.

[pixel85]

I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.

Why it took you so long to tell us this?! It's absolutely game changer. Now anything will be the same again

[glokraw]

Never once in all the lead-up to the first release,
did I ever consider the possibility that
V1 of Massive X would have the stability and support
that I've experienced with U-he products.
Hopefully the data received from error reports
will lead to a massive number of fixes and enhancements.

Did you try Massive X yourself? It's pretty stable here.

Apart from that, you kind of withhold that u-he releases discounted public betas, to nail out anything they couldn't in the internal beta tests.

Why would I withhold an obvious and great portion of
the U-he business plan? The public betas to me are fun,
educational, and the discounts are appreciated.
They engender the feeling of teamwork. I would love
NI to follow suit

I love many NI products, and their generous demos
have led to several purchases, but currently, I have
two major issues that their support is aware of,
and hopefully can follow through on successfully.
I've never have had to root around for crashdumps and
logs with any U-he product, on any platform.

I have spent too many hours with Massive X. Just using
the controls in the upper-left quadrant, with a chain of
CM Fuzz, Replika, and CoulourCopy, is great fun.
But the preset handling and kontrol-freek installer
are travesties, and sadly, several forum reports confirm
my own experiences. The gui reminds me of my old
washed-out sports t-shirts from decades past.
Massive X currently seems like a failed penalty kick.
But the fat lady has yet to sing
As it stands, 'Rounds' will be my next NI purchase,
and that several months from now, and _IF_ they fix
the issues I've reported.

I suspect NI are voluntary victims of bedding down in
territory infested with multiple .net frameworks,
and multiple multiple visual-basic calamities,
and those at the top seem to be content with
a certain baseline of failure, as long
as the headlines are shiny enough to drive sales.
Cheers

[glokraw]

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... 1560613340

[SLiC]

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... 1560613340

Party? That seems to be just a very long list of bugs and complaints!

[chk071]

Looks like a bug tracker to me. You know, that thing which noone else in the business would actually set up.

OK, not quite a bug tracker... rather... a feedback area.

[glokraw]

It shows that NI has provided a communication channel,
and is listening. Sorting the page 'by comments' is useful.

Experience shows their support staff is undermanned,
and overwhelmed. As are the staff of most big advertising competitors.
But some of this is brought on themselves
with Native Access yanking user ingenuity and knowledge
out of the installation/registration process

And then hapless/lazy customers pepper them with
generic complaints without taking 60 seconds to type in
their system specs, and another 60 for unique situations
that may factor in.
Both of which could be a stored in text file(s)
at the ready for whenever it's useful.

Teamwork and compromise are the key to NI's longevity
and future successes. From both users and developers.
Nobody is on an all-singing all-dancing roll here.

[highkoo]

Woah they created a whole Area!
Did anyone ask em when MX is going to be finished?

[BBFG#]

Last time I contacted support, system specs were required to submit the ticket.

[Stefken]

But some of this is brought on themselves
with Native Access yanking user ingenuity and knowledge
out of the installation/registration process

The install manager is solid. That's what most people want: an easy install.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. The installer is solid and then blame them as this makes the user 'stupid'. If the installer was a wreck (gobbler!) then the first thing people would do is ask for a proper installer.