The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion
perpetual3
KVRian
956 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:07 pm

Mathematics wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:42 pm
So, here is where we're at:

A number of us are on par with a Rent-to-Own model instead of this Deal of Your Lifetime.

We're all scratching our heads about the lower prices.

What benefit does a subscription give to someone that has most of the plugins they need?


Is that about right?
Too sensical and concise. Not enough projected rage

Scotty
KVRAF
1867 posts since 23 Dec, 2002

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:33 pm

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Tappistry
KVRAF
1509 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:37 pm

Razzia wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:22 am
martinjuenke wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:10 am
Is someone brave enough to bet that at the end of next year there is still no PA update plan?
A h yes, inspired by the beloved WUP program, we bring you: Plugin Alliance Update Program and Effects Renewal, or PAUPER
Lmaoooooooooooo

:lol:

SiliconDeath
KVRist
202 posts since 21 Feb, 2017

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:41 pm

If their idea of "deal of a lifetime" is to push me to spend my money on smaller developers instead, that aren't going to move to a subscription model, then maybe they're really doing me a favor.

If these are the choices your company have to do in order to stay afloat, then maybe it's time to move the company to a different state?

fairlyclose
KVRist
33 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:35 pm

I don't see the value in subscriptions for me but PA still seem to be selling plugins normally like they used to.

c1c2
KVRist
187 posts since 12 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:03 am

fairlyclose wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:35 pm
I don't see the value in subscriptions for me but PA still seem to be selling plugins normally like they used to.
I like that kind of sober analysis. :)

kintsugi
KVRist
99 posts since 23 Jan, 2018

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:33 am

Smart move from PA. Absolutely correct to cater to an ever-increasing horde of the clueless trying to audio.

I guess people haven't tried SKnote for their Shadow Hills "needs." (The SDC is a brutal hardware sounding top-shelf compressor).
I guess people don't realize True Iron by Kazrog slays for 39.99 and will make it on your every single track provided your CPU can handle it and fill your every saturation need. I guess people don't realize Ignite has a free Pultec EQ that destroys 99% of the analogue EQ market. And Tokyo Dawn? Klanghelm? LOL. For the price of the subscription you can have a buffet of small-company plugins that nail every single mixing task with power, precision and grace. AND OWN IT - zero hassle.

ralfrobert
KVRist
34 posts since 24 Jul, 2017

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:39 am

Thanks, kintsugi. Sknote +1. Klanghelm, TDR etc., too.

I think I will make a list of all PA plugins listing alternatives. However, I think it is not a good idea to post a thing like that to the web, as I may get tarred and feathered by PA for damaging their business (and their families, oh my).

kintsugi
KVRist
99 posts since 23 Jan, 2018

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:42 am

OH LOL again - I forgot Kazrog Thermionik is getting an update this year. As it is, Shane's sims make the Brainworx offerings sound like absolute garbage chinese knock-off toys. Muh Dizle and Ambeg - so pretty to look at aren't they.

samsam
KVRAF
2592 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:43 am

Thinking some folks are lacking a few real problems if they getting bent out of shape by an optional subscription deal. Get a f**king grip.

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Aloysius
KVRAF
24168 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from the Land of Soy

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:59 am

The MEGA hype from PA didn't deliver. They f**ked up BIG TIME.
I'm a cloud and I'm proud.

samsam
KVRAF
2592 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:03 am

Big f**king deal. Plugins, Jesus. The drama.

Still enjoy eq4, don't care about either the Alliance or the subs.

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martinjuenke
KVRAF
4113 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:07 am

No, three points cause raised eyebrows (at least for me):
1. The second value of PA stuff is completely destroyed.
2. The marketing buzz was, is (and will be) annoying.
3. In the (not so) long run we‘ll see a PA upgrade plan fee thrown onto our kept plugins.
All in all PA is moving into (at least for me) complete wrong direction.
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Michael L
KVRAF
2801 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:15 am

samsam wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:03 am
Big f**king deal. Plugins, Jesus.
But f**cking Dad, plugins are Jesus!
He is a letter to everyone
You open it
It says Live

Etienne1973
KVRian
512 posts since 8 Feb, 2013 from Switzerland

Re: The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:22 am

ralfrobert wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:39 am
I think I will make a list of all PA plugins listing alternatives. However, I think it is not a good idea to post a thing like that to the web, as I may get tarred and feathered by PA for damaging their business (and their families, oh my).
If you don't name-calling them then it's absolutely legit in my book. C'est le ton qui fait la musique. Just have style. :wink:

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