Cannot move dials in Bitwig 3
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 795 posts since 2 Apr, 2006
I recently upgraded to Bitwig 3.
I was still running 44xx versions of u-he plugins, but they were locking up when trying to open or close the UI.
After upgrading to the latest versions things work much better, but I can't drag any dials.
Dropdowns and toggles work, but when trying to drag a dial, the right click menu is just displayed.
This behaviour is present in all plugins I tried: zebra2, uhbik and twangstrom.
Audio is working, and the parameters can be tweaked through automation or the bitwig device panel parameter list. The UI does update when tweaking the parameters this way.
This is running on Ubuntu 19.04, using the vanilla kernel (5.0.0-20-generic) in a KDE desktop on X11 (no wayland here yet)
I was still running 44xx versions of u-he plugins, but they were locking up when trying to open or close the UI.
After upgrading to the latest versions things work much better, but I can't drag any dials.
Dropdowns and toggles work, but when trying to drag a dial, the right click menu is just displayed.
This behaviour is present in all plugins I tried: zebra2, uhbik and twangstrom.
Audio is working, and the parameters can be tweaked through automation or the bitwig device panel parameter list. The UI does update when tweaking the parameters this way.
This is running on Ubuntu 19.04, using the vanilla kernel (5.0.0-20-generic) in a KDE desktop on X11 (no wayland here yet)
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- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
This seems to be quite serious. I haven't upgraded yet to 3.0 although I use Bitwig a lot. I'm running Xubuntu 18.04. I hope this issue will get fixed.
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- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Is this confirmed ? If so, I will not get Bitwig 3.0 and wait until this is fixed.
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- 1734 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
It works fine in Bitwig 3 on Ubuntu Studio 17.04, tried it with Diva rev. 8256.
But left-click working like a right-click is something I am experiencing, too, though it's not tied to u-he plugins.
It happens because I run Linux and Windows as a VM inside Parallels Desktop on Mac.
When I use the Mac shortcuts to do a screenshot of a VM, and then want to continue using the VM, left-clicks in the VM are suddenly treated as right-clicks.
I have to switch to the Mac desktop, left-click there, then come back to the virtual machine, and it will work correctly again. I assume that's a bug of Parallels Desktop.
If you are running Linux as a virtual machine, maybe you have the same problem.
But if you are running Linux natively, then I have no idea what might be causing this.
But left-click working like a right-click is something I am experiencing, too, though it's not tied to u-he plugins.
It happens because I run Linux and Windows as a VM inside Parallels Desktop on Mac.
When I use the Mac shortcuts to do a screenshot of a VM, and then want to continue using the VM, left-clicks in the VM are suddenly treated as right-clicks.
I have to switch to the Mac desktop, left-click there, then come back to the virtual machine, and it will work correctly again. I assume that's a bug of Parallels Desktop.
If you are running Linux as a virtual machine, maybe you have the same problem.
But if you are running Linux natively, then I have no idea what might be causing this.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
I use Xfce (Xubuntu 18.04) and am not inclined so much in doing any system modification such as erasing the desktop's config files (eg. finding them, what they are, what's their purpose, wil they be re=created automatically or will the system hang refusing total access, before erasing (moving away) any).
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 795 posts since 2 Apr, 2006
I updated to bitwig 3.01, issue still persists.
It does indeed seem to treat every click as a right click event at the position where you release the button. (and since buttons and menus have the same behaviour on right and left click, they work as expected).
I'll try with both a dummy user and factory kde settings and a different window manager.
The settings on this machine are near stock though.
It does indeed seem to treat every click as a right click event at the position where you release the button. (and since buttons and menus have the same behaviour on right and left click, they work as expected).
I'll try with both a dummy user and factory kde settings and a different window manager.
The settings on this machine are near stock though.
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- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
- KVRian
- 989 posts since 6 Jun, 2016 from San Marcos, Texas
Well, I upgraded to the latest builds of Bazille, Diva, Hive and ACE. All exhibit the same behavior as stated before: Bazille crashes, and the others don't respond properly to the (x) close button.
Here is what xev outputs during the first three (x) clicks, about two messages per click:
Upon the third click, the window is finally destroyed.
Thoughts?
Here is what xev outputs during the first three (x) clicks, about two messages per click:
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LeaveNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
root 0x1e6, subw 0x8800000, time 2607972077, (1046,-1), root:(2486,1319),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 16
UnmapNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
event 0x6400000, window 0x8800000, from_configure NO
Expose event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
(0,0), width 1130, height 680, count 0
DestroyNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
event 0x6400000, window 0x8800000
UnmapNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
event 0x6400000, window 0x6400000, from_configure NO
FocusOut event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear
DestroyNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x6400000,
event 0x6400000, window 0x6400000
Thoughts?
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I sincerely hope you are recaptured soon, and that we can betasmaniandevil wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:20 pm ... I run Linux and Windows as a VM inside Parallels Desktop on Mac.
cell-mates for a while. I will of course appeal for your
early release, once my studies are complete.
I only snore on Tuesdays.
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- 1734 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
They'll never catch me again, I'm freeeeeee.glokraw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:25 amI sincerely hope you are recaptured soon, and that we can betasmaniandevil wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:20 pm ... I run Linux and Windows as a VM inside Parallels Desktop on Mac.
cell-mates for a while. I will of course appeal for your
early release, once my studies are complete.
I only snore on Tuesdays.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
knock knock knock...
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- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
I think I posted that elsewhere, but since then Bitwig replied that they did all testing required and haven't noticed any problems. So much for that.
I haven't upgraded to 3.x and will need some convincing (or just time and versions going by ...) before doing so. Breaking a good-running setup is not in my current plans at all.
Cheers.