The "NEW" Plugin Alliance?
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 24 Dec, 2009 from Berlin
Do they sound worse when they are rented and not owned? Yeah, of course I could try to sell all my plugins that I never used or not using anymore (and I have done this here at the marketplace), but the 2nd market value of plugins is really, really low. Which is one reason why I started to "invest" more in hardware again, and sometime this was really a good investment
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
What if I need to stop the subscription for a few months? I can no longer continue working on projects I started.Klinke wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:05 pmDo they sound worse when they are rented and not owned? Yeah, of course I could try to sell all my plugins that I never used or not using anymore (and I have done this here at the marketplace), but the 2nd market value of plugins is really, really low. Which is one reason why I started to "invest" more in hardware again, and sometime this was really a good investment![]()
What if I decide to stop the description permanently? None of my old projects will open (the same as they did previously anyway).
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
- KVRAF
- 2236 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
But the second hand value will be excellent in the future. What once cost $29 will in the future cost $350Klinke wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:05 pmDo they sound worse when they are rented and not owned? Yeah, of course I could try to sell all my plugins that I never used or not using anymore (and I have done this here at the marketplace), but the 2nd market value of plugins is really, really low. Which is one reason why I started to "invest" more in hardware again, and sometime this was really a good investment![]()
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- KVRAF
- 4334 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Yeah, well, what would we do without something to bitch about?chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:37 pm I have no issue with absurd prices either... since i don't have to buy, i don't care. I'll just wait for a decent price.
Can't believe which non issues bother people these days.
A well-behaved signature.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
probably "caged death matches"JerGoertz wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:27 pmYeah, well, what would we do without something to bitch about?chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:37 pm I have no issue with absurd prices either... since i don't have to buy, i don't care. I'll just wait for a decent price.
Can't believe which non issues bother people these days.
that's where society goes when theres no complaining.
- KVRAF
- 11000 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
It would solve a lot of problems around here.vurt wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:28 pmprobably "caged death matches"JerGoertz wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:27 pmYeah, well, what would we do without something to bitch about?chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:37 pm I have no issue with absurd prices either... since i don't have to buy, i don't care. I'll just wait for a decent price.
Can't believe which non issues bother people these days.
that's where society goes when theres no complaining.
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
I have a Deal PA Cannot Refuse.
I'll pay $1 per month, from now till eternity - totalling a whopping $ERROR_OVERFLOW.
I'll pay $1 per month, from now till eternity - totalling a whopping $ERROR_OVERFLOW.
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 24 Dec, 2009 from Berlin
I don't find this scenario really likly in my case. And when this would be the case, I think not working on projects I started would be my least concern. And even then it's easy to bounce the tracks before the subscription stops.Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:07 pm What if I need to stop the subscription for a few months? I can no longer continue working on projects I started.
When I tried this in the past (I think this wasn't more often then two or three times in the last 10 years) this already never worked. And I must say, I don't see this as a real problem, i'm not really interested in workig again on projects from the past.Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:07 pm What if I decide to stop the description permanently? None of my old projects will open (the same as they did previously anyway).
I don't argue that subscription is a good solution for everyone, I just want to support the notion that for some people the subscription is a reasonable and good offer.
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- KVRist
- 145 posts since 19 Oct, 2018
There's no doubt about that I think.Klinke wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:02 pm I don't argue that subscription is a good solution for everyone, I just want to support the notion that for some people the subscription is a reasonable and good offer.
People were actually freaking out, because of the marketing, the overall pricing, disappointments after those bloomy promises and last but not least the shutdown of comments in the FB group.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Sure if it works for you then go for it. For me and my way of working it’s a no, even at $0.01 per month.Klinke wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:02 pmI don't find this scenario really likly in my case. And when this would be the case, I think not working on projects I started would be my least concern. And even then it's easy to bounce the tracks before the subscription stops.Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:07 pm What if I need to stop the subscription for a few months? I can no longer continue working on projects I started.
When I tried this in the past (I think this wasn't more often then two or three times in the last 10 years) this already never worked. And I must say, I don't see this as a real problem, i'm not really interested in workig again on projects from the past.Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:07 pm What if I decide to stop the description permanently? None of my old projects will open (the same as they did previously anyway).
I don't argue that subscription is a good solution for everyone, I just want to support the notion that for some people the subscription is a reasonable and good offer.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRist
- 31 posts since 13 Jan, 2009
Start getting emails from PA about vouchers inviting subscription, and the discounts are getting larger. So in the record, firstly there was a Pick Pack scheme to get people on board, then Pick Pack members are getting monthly voucher. After a while, monthly vouchers stopped and suddenly no need to fulfill the remaining payment. Before members say hooray in joyful tears, here comes the truck of subscription model. No. I will wait until Back Friday and see how things further unfold themselves.
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
You're right. The older i get, the more i need the bitching as well.JerGoertz wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:27 pmYeah, well, what would we do without something to bitch about?chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:37 pm I have no issue with absurd prices either... since i don't have to buy, i don't care. I'll just wait for a decent price.
Can't believe which non issues bother people these days.
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- KVRist
- 145 posts since 19 Oct, 2018
And people like to put it to an extreme. 
