Loom II has landed!

[starflakeprj]

The whole inMusic group seems to try to reach large group of consumers with little to no investements.

I wouldn't say the whole group if you know anything about the brands and recent history.

Agreed. They seem to handle their hardware businesses quite well (Akai, M-Audio, Denon DJ, Numark, Rane).

Did you purposely leave out Behringer

Behringer is not an InMusic brand?

[VariKusBrainZ]

The whole inMusic group seems to try to reach large group of consumers with little to no investements.

I wouldn't say the whole group if you know anything about the brands and recent history.

Agreed. They seem to handle their hardware businesses quite well (Akai, M-Audio, Denon DJ, Numark, Rane).

Did you purposely leave out Behringer

Behringer is not an InMusic brand?

I'm getting brands mixed up

[aMUSEd]

Even though the Loom 2 update was very dissapointing it is a great sounding and easy to use additive. Just a shame Air hardly took onboard any of the user feedback in the update.

[AcrossTheSky]

To whom it may concern....

Is Loom 3 coming this year - 2019??

It s a great synth that needs v3 update..

Pls let us know....

Cheers.

[robotmonkey]

To whom it may concern....

Is Loom 3 coming this year - 2019??

It s a great synth that needs v3 update..

Pls let us know....

Cheers.

No.

Judging by how slow Air has been updating their plugins and how underwhelming the Loom II update was, there's no way that Loom 3 will be released any time soon. They have promised to update their plugin GUI's long time ago and nothing has happened for years.

[Alphagem-O]

I too do not consider it likely that Loom 3 will be released anytime soon, if at all.

Nevertheless, I think it would be interesting to creatively/constructively collect here in brief your desired future fixes and features that you think would add significant value to this synth. This might well be an exercise in futility, but who knows, maybe the developers will read it and become motivated to devote some additional resources to this project. In worst case, we'll end up with a comprehensive wish list to dream about .

For me, the following features come to mind first: 1.) Be able to move modules around freely 2.) Make GUI scalable and fix graphics issues. 3.) Improve handling of envelopes, e.g. by adding knobs for higher precision and moving markers when a note is played.

I'm sure there is a whole lot more, but just wanted to get the list started.

[machinesworking]

Mostly with synths I love like Loom my feature requests are lower than my usability requests are. Like you mentioned the GUI is great but needs to be scalable and work done to make it compatible with touch screens. I feel like any VSTi these days should be 100% compatible with touch interfaces.

MPE support, this is a perfect synth for MPE controllers, but I often wonder how much companies like NI and Air are loth to implement MPE since their own hardware controllers don't support it.

It seems like they could do more with the ability Loom has to use samples.

[tonedef71]

If you throw in a free license of iZotope Iris 2 along with Loom II, is it worth $15?
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/3854-Loom-II

[thecontrolcentre]

If you throw in a free license of iZotope Iris 2 along with Loom II, is it worth $15?
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/3854-Loom-II

If not for the iLok I'd be straight onto that offer ... maybe Iris2 is worth it anyway.

[tonedef71]

If you throw in a free license of iZotope Iris 2 along with Loom II, is it worth $15?
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/3854-Loom-II

If not for the iLok I'd be straight onto that offer ... maybe Iris2 is worth it anyway.

I am a Windows 10 user, and I hate iLok, too. What I find myself doing is activating the licenses in the iLok License Manager when I need them, and then I deactivate them before I shut down my computer. I do this anal routine because I cannot trust that a Windows Update will not change the digital identity of my computer and screw up my license activations.

[mooter]

I didn't have to authorize with iLok; it gave the computer as another option. Maybe you need to have the iLok software installed like I do; but I didn't need to use it to activate or authorize.

Other than that; I don't claim to be in the loop, but I barely see mention of this synth online and it's impressive AF. Does Serum cover Additive like this one does or something? It's well designed, plenty of presets and sounds amazing. Underdog award? Oh right, I haven't read this thread yet, so maybe it's already been said...

Edit: true the first thing that came to mind when I opened it was the small gui and no resizability. For the most part I've just been checking presets but you should be able to fine tune with Shift but you can't, so I'm seeing all the complaints here and agreeing for at least the basics; I don't know Loom 1 so I don't know about requests akaDragn'n'drop; nonethess, Loom 2 AND Iris 2 for 15$? Hell yes.

[cron]

I'm absolutely baffled as to why AIR think this will fly.

I waited ages for Loom to go on sale and picked it up at about the £40 mark. Two or three months later, a £50 'everything upgrade' appears, shortly after blowing Xpand 2 out for $1/free, just to ensure your existing customers get the worst possible deal.

Why on earth would I buy/support [Loom 2]?

2 years ago I ranted in this thread about AIR treating new customers preferentially, with little regard for the existing userbase. This is the second time in a couple of months that I've seen Loom 2 go on sale priced significantly lower than the Loom 1-to-2 upgrade price. Currently £11 vs £40. I can't think of another company that goes to such lengths to ensure their existing userbase gets the worst deal. What's the point of offering an upgrade path on this thing when you get the best deal by just buying the thing outright? f**k 'em.

[Tj Shredder]

But that way you can sell your Loom 1 license...(the transfer fee being higher than the v2 price as well...)
If you complain about such things at that level of prices, you miss gratefulness in your life in general. It is not a bad thing to support developers with your money... It actually feels good!

[machinesworking]

But that way you can sell your Loom 1 license...(the transfer fee being higher than the v2 price as well...)
If you complain about such things at that level of prices, you miss gratefulness in your life in general. It is not a bad thing to support developers with your money... It actually feels good!

I have to agree with this. I think InMusic kind of doesn't know what to do with Air. Since a lot of their products were bundled with Pro Tools, it kind of devalued them once they were set free of AAX/RTAS and became VST it seems, and that's meant fire sales all the time.
Not all of Air's products are great but I would gladly pay regular prices for Loom 3 and Transfuser 3 upgrades with GUI tweaks etc. but it's going to be hard to rationalize for InMusic to spend any money at all on Loom when people act like prima donnas about fire sales.
I wish they would consolidate or concentrate on a few things in their line and charge amounts that don't make me afraid it's becoming abandonware personally.

[Tj Shredder]

Except for real bugs, I think we are safe with any 64-bit vst for the future. Great instruments remain great instruments even if the devs go distinct... My violin is about 100 years old...