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Okay, I replaced the harsh cymbals with softer cymbals. If they still don't work, let me know and I'll try gongs.

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wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:22 pm In fact, I'm going to take the rest of 2019 as "prep time"
Save a good amount of time to really master the genre. Every genre has its vocabulary and grammar. Learn from the best. Analyse their work in detail. Compete with them. Only that will get you out of mediocre. Don't stop there. You are gifted with musical talent. So be responsible because of that objective fact.

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Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:01 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:22 pm In fact, I'm going to take the rest of 2019 as "prep time"
Only that will get you out of mediocre.
Just want to make sure I understood you correctly. So I'm mediocre? Well, that sure beats being total shit. :lol:

Thanks for the advice.

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Your results are sometimes mediocre because you stop there. You can do better. :wink:

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Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:22 pm Your results are sometimes mediocre because you stop there. You can do better. :wink:
We can all do better my friend.

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wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:48 pm Okay, I replaced the harsh cymbals with softer cymbals.
Better :tu:

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Distorted Horizon wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:25 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:48 pm Okay, I replaced the harsh cymbals with softer cymbals.
Better :tu:
Thanks. See, I'm actually capable of listening to people when I care enough. :lol:

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wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:23 pm
Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:22 pm Your results are sometimes mediocre because you stop there. You can do better. :wink:
We can all do better my friend.
Seems to be the rule. If we want to leave a special mark in music history then we have to achieve something above mediocre.

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Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:37 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:23 pm
Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:22 pm Your results are sometimes mediocre because you stop there. You can do better. :wink:
We can all do better my friend.
Seems to be the rule. If we want to leave a special mark in music history then we have to achieve something above mediocre.
"Not bad"?

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Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:01 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:22 pm In fact, I'm going to take the rest of 2019 as "prep time"
Save a good amount of time to really master the genre. Every genre has its vocabulary and grammar. Learn from the best. Analyse their work in detail. Compete with them. Only that will get you out of mediocre. Don't stop there. You are gifted with musical talent. So be responsible because of that objective fact.
Well. Wagtunes took 'mediocre' out of context. I didn't sugar coating but neither was my intention to be negative. Quite the opposite.

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Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:46 pm
Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:01 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:22 pm In fact, I'm going to take the rest of 2019 as "prep time"
Save a good amount of time to really master the genre. Every genre has its vocabulary and grammar. Learn from the best. Analyse their work in detail. Compete with them. Only that will get you out of mediocre. Don't stop there. You are gifted with musical talent. So be responsible because of that objective fact.
Well. Wagtunes took 'mediocre' out of context. I didn't sugar coating but neither was my intention to be negative. Quite the opposite.
Hey, it's all good. I'm no Elton John. All I can do is try to get a little better each day.

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Etienne's suggestion that you prepare by analysing the best library tracks in your genre is spot-on. Library music has different genres (and mashups), but a common style. The stuff I hear is composed with small changes, spare orchestration, a few motifs and simple structure (e.g. ABAA), but a very clear musical idea (often with wide dynamic range/build). I think that style fits you.
And for humour there are the catalog descriptors in their own dialect: "Low synth refix takes the lead. The orchestra is now squashed into a processor and morphed into the chords underneath. Very cool" (Universal ARX008-7).
The DVDs your wife is watching now probably use a lot of production music, so you can prepare together!
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Michael L wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:36 am Etienne's suggestion that you prepare by analysing the best library tracks in your genre is spot-on. Library music has different genres (and mashups), but a common style. The stuff I hear is composed with small changes, spare orchestration, a few motifs and simple structure (e.g. ABAA), but a very clear musical idea (often with wide dynamic range/build). I think that style fits you.
And for humour there are the catalog descriptors in their own dialect: "Low synth refix takes the lead. The orchestra is now squashed into a processor and morphed into the chords underneath. Very cool" (Universal ARX008-7).
The DVDs your wife is watching now probably use a lot of production music, so you can prepare together!
Thanks Michael. Yeah, I know this is a whole new world for me and there's going to be a lot of trial and error and growing pains. I don't expect this to be an overnight success by any stretch of the imagination. But the important thing is I'm actually enjoying doing this.

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Enjoyment is the sign of a good fit between that industry and you :hug:
You can reduce trial&error by ripping some "reference" library tracks in your genre using Audio Hijack, and then comparing those reference tracks with yours using MetricAB. I do that. It can be quite eye-opening!!
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Michael L wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:57 am Enjoyment is the sign of a good fit between that industry and you :hug:
You can reduce trial&error by ripping some "reference" library tracks in your genre using Audio Hijack, and then comparing those reference tracks with yours using MetricAB. I do that. It can be quite eye-opening!!
Okay Michael, you'll have to slow down because now you're talking Greek to me. :lol:

1. I don't know what Audio Hijack is.

2. I don't know what MetricAB is.

3. I've never done the "reference track" thing nor have any clue how to do it. This is one area of music production that I've never gotten into because I never really tried to sound like somebody else.

So you're gonna have to give me a hand here.

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