[Hive 2] Key Follow affected by Transpose

[IllusionCatalyst]

Hello,
I have just noticed that in Hive 2.0 (rev. 8791) VST2, filter's Key Follow is somehow affected by the global Transpose setting. To better understand what I mean, please create the following two patches:

Patch A

• Initialize Hive
• Set Transpose to 0
• Set Oscillator1 Octave to -1
• Set Filter1 Cutoff to 90
• Set Filter1 Resonance to 100
• Set Filter1 Key Follow to 100

Patch B

• Initialize Hive (Transpose is initialized to -12)
• Set Filter1 Cutoff to 90
• Set Filter1 Resonance to 100
• Set Filter1 Key Follow to 100

Play with both patches the MIDI note 64, the E above middle C, pivot of the Key Follow.
I would expect these two patches to sound identical, but the Key Follow behaves differently:

Patch A: the cutoff filter frequency does not change when playing MIDI note 64.
Patch B: the cutoff filter frequency changes when playing MIDI note 64, as if an E of a lower octave was played. It seems that Transpose is actually remapping the input MIDI data, and the Key Follow is just behaving accordingly.

It is not a problem, I would only like to know if this is intentional. If not, I am glad to have spotted a minor bug.

Keep up the fantastic work!
Enrico

[EvilDragon]

It should be like that, global transpose is transposing the MIDI input. This is definitely by design.

[Urs]

Yep, it transposes the incoming MIDI key.

[IllusionCatalyst]

Thank you guys for the quick replies and for clarifying that it is the intended behavior. It would be nice to have it added to the documentation.

Cheers
Enrico

[Howard]

It would be nice to have it added to the documentation.

In the next version of the manuals it will say
"Transpose: Shifts incoming MIDI notes +/- 24 semitones."

[IllusionCatalyst]

Thank you Howard,
it looks clearer to me. I would probably add something similar for the Fine Tune, if it shares the same behavior.

As one of those who Read The Fantastic Manual, I really appreciate your work on the documentation, and of course your patches, which are an endless source of inspiration on every u-he synth.

Thank you very much
Enrico

[Howard]

Fine tuning doesn't appear to share any "DNA" with Transpose. However, I found out that it's strength per oscillator/filter is relative to the key follow value, and that the range quoted in the Zebra manual was wrong (it said +/- 50 Cents there). So in the Zebra manual (for instance) it now says:
"Fine Tune
Shifts all oscillators and filters by +/- 100 cents relative to 100% keyfollow."