Hello,
so i have been using mtpower drum kit 2 for awhile now in Tracktion 6. I drag it in to the track and it just works with my Simmons electronic drum set. However, i have many more vst drum set plugins that i want to use but none of them work. I can see that my drums are working when i hit a drum pad because it shows the bar moving in trackition, however the vst is not producing any sounds when i hit my drum pads. Ive tried vintage drum elements, dsk drums, drummatic, line of legends and many many more but none of them are producing sounds. Do these other plugins require me to map my drum pads to certain midi notes to get them to work? If so how do i do that? I tried the midi learn feature, but it seems like its made for like a mixer with knobs or something.
What am i doing wrong? I am very frustrated because i have like 20 vst drum kit plugins that i want to use, but MT Power Drumkit 2 is the ONLY plugin that works when i load it. Please help me.
Thanks,
Corey B
Electronic drums are producing sound with vsts
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Peter Widdicombe Peter Widdicombe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336849
- KVRian
- 1209 posts since 29 Aug, 2014
Most drum kits have the capability to map output any pad to a given note.
Most drum .VST''s also allow you to select the input notes that trigger the drums.
There is a "Standard MIDI drum set" in many libraries that probably was adopted way back in the early days of SoundBlaster cards, so that many games could play through "general MIDI".
You happened to find a .VST that matched your drum set; but appears that most others don't? They may either be playing remapped notes, or may also only respond to a particular MIDI channel (I think drums were often 10). The challenge here is - where do you remap?
https://codefn42.com/notemapper/index.html allows you to set up a custom mapping, so you need to find out first what notes the Simmons sends out for all your wanted events. this may actually be documented in the MT.
first find out if your .vst's you want are "working". Use the virtual keyboard built into tracktion (or a real keyboard if you have one) to find out what notes respond. Or just check the sequences generated by powerdrums to see what notes they are.
Then choices are:
1. set up custom mappings on the Simmons drums.
2. Customize the drum mapping on each .VST to match the Simmons instead
3. Use something like the software above to map notes from what the Simmons sends to what the .VST wants.
I would probably use #3, so on Tracktion in your output chain, set the MAPPER function just before the drum set. Then you don't wind up messing settings of what you've already been doing.
This is the default mapping; within powerdrumkit, which must be what the Simmons is currently sending.
Most drum .VST''s also allow you to select the input notes that trigger the drums.
There is a "Standard MIDI drum set" in many libraries that probably was adopted way back in the early days of SoundBlaster cards, so that many games could play through "general MIDI".
You happened to find a .VST that matched your drum set; but appears that most others don't? They may either be playing remapped notes, or may also only respond to a particular MIDI channel (I think drums were often 10). The challenge here is - where do you remap?
https://codefn42.com/notemapper/index.html allows you to set up a custom mapping, so you need to find out first what notes the Simmons sends out for all your wanted events. this may actually be documented in the MT.
first find out if your .vst's you want are "working". Use the virtual keyboard built into tracktion (or a real keyboard if you have one) to find out what notes respond. Or just check the sequences generated by powerdrums to see what notes they are.
Then choices are:
1. set up custom mappings on the Simmons drums.
2. Customize the drum mapping on each .VST to match the Simmons instead
3. Use something like the software above to map notes from what the Simmons sends to what the .VST wants.
I would probably use #3, so on Tracktion in your output chain, set the MAPPER function just before the drum set. Then you don't wind up messing settings of what you've already been doing.
This is the default mapping; within powerdrumkit, which must be what the Simmons is currently sending.
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- KVRAF
- 11000 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
^^^
What he said. There isn’t really a lot of standardization between plugins, so you often find that you have to match the note you’re inputting with the note that the plugin expects.
What he said. There isn’t really a lot of standardization between plugins, so you often find that you have to match the note you’re inputting with the note that the plugin expects.
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Actually, most drum plugins are quite standardized when it comes to the basics like kick, snare, toms, and hi hats. You should get sound out of just about any drum plugin if your Simmons are set to the standard general MIDI notes. Extra cymbals, percussion, and other special stuff will vary quite a bit in note assignments.