Native Instruments Layoffs?

[pixel85]

It took me so long to realize that we are talking about Native Instruments Massive X layoffs. X because every '100% trusted' insider source like Dirk or Uli gave quite different numbers
So maybe it's a marketing strategy for Massive X?

Ps. so many already see collapse of NI because of layoffs. But do you know those people? Do you think that all of them were their best programmers and engineers? What if most of those positions were administrative/office/QA? I don't know anyone working for NI but from my experience not every employee in IT/Tech/etc. is great or worth to be kept. I know examples where proportion between two employees and their 'work force' is like 300:1). We don't know those people so reviews and complaining on Glassdoor doesn't really tell us that much as it may seems. So many possibilities...
This topic require tons of salt

maybe theyre not actually "lay offs" so much as non renewal of contracts.
all the people involved might be british, and no one knows whether they will be allowed to stay, so no point renewing contracts. just send em back!

Damn hippie immigrants! Send them back!

[pixel85]

Guitar Rig is perfect the way it is. I use it on all my master busses.

But do you use 280 instances? If not, you are a wusss.

Stop sharing industry secrets of top Billboard music producers!

[pixel85]

What if most of those positions were administrative/office/QA?

Nice what if but it's just that, a what if. The reality is something else.

Everything what we have here is "what if" and speculations. Whatever is the the "reality" nobody knows here.

Weeeellll....

Ok you may be the exception here but you didn't wrote official statement and I'm pretty sure that you don't want to play open cards sharing everything you know about NI and their employees
Ps. It would kill all fun here if you would do this These days speculations are the new 'facts' so let's keep it this way

[digitalboytn]

If all the information I'm getting is correct the world is in for some dark financial times...

Yes Sir...All of the economic indicators are pointing in that direction...

Economies are f**ked. theres a recession looming, that will make the recent one look like a picnic according to some leading economists.

The economic fundamentals are out of whack and the level of sovereign debt is astounding...

The problem with capitalism,is that if you can't achieve positive growth,then the whole equation fails...

What we are seeing is a breakdown in the system as a direct result of not having taken the correct remedial steps during the GFC over 10 years ago...

They went for the KFC option instead and it's not as finger licking good as the Colonel suggests...

Benny Boy and his band of central bankers,in their esteemed and misguided wisdom,made the wrong moves...

And now we are going to pay the price

[reggie1979]

WTF???????

Someone starts a fake news speculation thread and now we're talking about world economies?

Wow. It's hard to tell between the ribbing and serious. None of this should be serious.

[EvilDragon]

Ps. It would kill all fun here if you would do this

That's why I'm not doing it. The last thing I need right now is end up in trouble.

[digitalboytn]

WTF???????

Someone starts a fake news speculation thread and now we're talking about world economies?

Wow. It's hard to tell between the ribbing and serious. None of this should be serious.

Well...the problems facing the world's economies are real and the're far more serious than the pressure put onto NI because of their unfortunate choice of bringing in some private equity funding...

Anybody with half a mind could tell that the private equity injection could lead to big trouble at NI...

Even a dummy like me

[reggie1979]

Ok.

[Aloysius]

OK

[digitalboytn]

OK

[reggie1979]

OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[yehboy1]

[Greenstorm33]

*POW*

K O!!!!

[pixel85]

WTF???????

Someone starts a fake news speculation thread and now we're talking about world economies?

Wow. It's hard to tell between the ribbing and serious. None of this should be serious.

Well...the problems facing the world's economies are real and the're far more serious than the pressure put onto NI because of their unfortunate choice of bringing in some private equity funding...

Anybody with half a mind could tell that the private equity injection could lead to big trouble at NI...

Even a dummy like me

Yea but could you predict that NI layoff will lead us to economical collapse of the world we know? This event will be remembered by those who will survive apocalypse. We need to print this topic so they can spread the word. 'The Book of Eli' movie was all about it, they just changed print copy of this topic to bible to keep away suspicious tinfoil hats. It's all facts! The end is NEAR!

[ghettosynth]

What if most of those positions were administrative/office/QA?

Nice what if but it's just that, a what if. The reality is something else.

Everything what we have here is "what if" and speculations. Whatever is the the "reality" nobody knows here.

Weeeellll....

Ok you may be the exception here but you didn't wrote official statement and I'm pretty sure that you don't want to play open cards sharing everything you know about NI and their employees
Ps. It would kill all fun here if you would do this These days speculations are the new 'facts' so let's keep it this way

Right! But, it's not "all" speculation. We have outward evidence of mismanagement at a high level and we have testimonials of laid off employees. Sure, that's SLOP data, but it's not the same thing as pure speculation. It can't all be dismissed by a wave of the hand and a claim of "you're aren't there so you don't know." The fact is, we can make reasonable inferences that will be more right than wrong. Here, I'll demonstrate.

The weather in CA tomorrow and throughout the rest of the week will be sunny and warm with a cumulative snowfall for the week of zero inches.

NI is a privately held company, I'm not sure what "facts" people expect? I'm also not sure why people think that "we" shouldn't extrapolate available data and make some effort to predict what's happening? Such extrapolation can have value to us as consumers that is independent of "facts." Extrapolating expectations about Kore probably helped some people avoid investing in a sinking ship. We should continue to do that and if NI doesn't like those sorts of public discussions then it's completely in their purview to be more transparent about their actions.

I expect companies to want to protect their interests and, having some experience with evaluating SLOP data, I expect that there is actually more truth than people want to admit in the Glassdoor summaries. Certainly I believe those statements more than I believe the NI responses. So yes, I think that NI is poorly managed, has no vision in their roadmap, and allows marketing to run amok, among other things. Is that speculation? Yes, it most certainly is, but it's not completely blind, that's speculation based on reading a large number of reviews on Glassdoor, reading the NI responses, and the outward evidence of their products and services over a decade.

The point here is that if you don't like these kinds of conversations, then you're probably just going to be disappointed. Get over it, you aren't going to stop them by asserting that speculation!=fact. Speculation isn't just wild ass guessing, it's what happens when people put some effort into understanding the available data and predicting some eventual outcome. These predictions not always going to be right, and they're not all of equal value, however, they are not useless either. That they may prove to be wrong is immaterial, what has value to "us" is that we try to make the best sense of what's going on to make good decisions for ourselves.