Native Instruments Layoffs?

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vurt wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:33 pm
JunSev wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:30 pm
AnX wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:17 pm
JunSev wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:01 pm All good until you said this:
you never own software , you have the right to use it
Please stop this trending, you see people have a distorted perception of things due to this and even thinking about subscriptions as a more "viable" solution for the future; companies and corporations love this procedures so to make us more and more dependent on them, this need to stop.

You Buy The Product, You Have The Product.
well, its a tricky one....

they (devs) say in the eula that you are purchasing a licence to use the software

of course, a licence is no good without the software, so you get that too

... but you dont own the actual software (code etc)
Yes, you're right (Anx?). Because you don't own the software but you own the product, that's why I said ones have to respect the terms and conditions; there is not dependency like with the subscription paying over and over again without ever getting anything.

Rent to own is a good option of course.

With all respect.
schroedingers plugin?
It’s both in and out at the same time? :hihi:
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Forgotten wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:35 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:33 pm
JunSev wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:30 pm
AnX wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:17 pm
JunSev wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:01 pm All good until you said this:
you never own software , you have the right to use it
Please stop this trending, you see people have a distorted perception of things due to this and even thinking about subscriptions as a more "viable" solution for the future; companies and corporations love this procedures so to make us more and more dependent on them, this need to stop.

You Buy The Product, You Have The Product.
well, its a tricky one....

they (devs) say in the eula that you are purchasing a licence to use the software

of course, a licence is no good without the software, so you get that too

... but you dont own the actual software (code etc)
Yes, you're right (Anx?). Because you don't own the software but you own the product, that's why I said ones have to respect the terms and conditions; there is not dependency like with the subscription paying over and over again without ever getting anything.

Rent to own is a good option of course.

With all respect.
schroedingers plugin?
It’s both in and out at the same time? :hihi:
righty right right my droog! :tu:
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https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... &t=7513784

I'm sorry for the people who got upended, I truly am.
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Forgotten wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:35 pmIt’s both in and out at the same time? :hihi:
That's your party trick, that is :P

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:48 pm
Forgotten wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:35 pmIt’s both in and out at the same time? :hihi:
That's your party trick, that is :P

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reggie1979 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:26 pm
Spencer Maddox wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:53 pm Am I the only One who doesn’t hate subscription that much as long as it’s done reasonably?
No. I love my Slate sub. It's a fair price and if you paid for it for 10 years it wouldn't be enough to buy all the stuff I use. Plus, they keep adding stuff and I use it a lot.

Sub hate is just messed up.
Count me as someone who doesn't use subscriptions with software.
Slate do it right though, offering both subscription and purchasing models.
I'm self employed, and my income is far too varied for subscription models to work for me.
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Hi! don't have anything to say about this. One question though, Who is this Jared? a plugin maker?
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where do we go from here?
you cant take a photograph of uzis on the street corner :shrug:

racing clouds home, with all respect.
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CasualHobbyist wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:59 pm Hi! don't have anything to say about this. One question though, Who is this Jared? a plugin maker?
claimed he lost weight with subway meals or some such.
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"While users of Komplete, Maschine and Traktor may be concerned at what this means for the future of their hardware and software, NI says that it remains fully committed to these brands."

Those two words: "fully" and "committed".

I've got a really bad feeling about this... (as a Maschine + Komplete owner)
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Optimal number of audio plugins is one more than you currently have.
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CDM seems to suggest they lost some product leads and even developers working on Maschine. Is there any speculation on what is going to happen with Massive X?
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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J4R1O wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:12 pm I've got a really bad feeling about this...
it's ok im a citizen of legoland travelling incommunicado
and i dont care for fleet street aficionados.
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v1o wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:14 pm CDM seems to suggest they lost some product leads and even developers working on Maschine. Is there any speculation on what is going to happen with Massive X?
Pretty sure Massive X is here to stay. Here they say they are are "fully committed to their existing brands Komplete, Maschine and Traktor"

https://ask.audio/articles/native-instr ... s-going-on
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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:48 pm
Forgotten wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:35 pmIt’s both in and out at the same time? :hihi:
That's your party trick, that is :P

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it's all just sugar mice in the rain :shrug:
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