zebra - bow sounds ?

[sylvainmoreau]

Hi,

i'm trying to find string bow sounds on zebra. any suggestions ?
like "real" texture of gritty bow.
in massive X this can be done my adding a noise "bow" (basically a sample)
but no sample in zebra right ? so.. how would you get such a texture ?

thx.

[clangorous]

Use the Comb Filter. It's perfect for bowed sounds. I have a few patches I can share that illustrate. Will post them later tonight once I'm home.

[sylvainmoreau]

ho thanks that would help alot.

[clangorous]

Sorry for delay, I'm still trying to find the patches. However, Howard Scarr has a great bowed string patch using just the Comb Filter. It's in the Zebra folder called "Leaders." The name of the patch is HS Violince. Check it out!

[sylvainmoreau]

All right thanks for the hint ! 'll try this afternoon.

[sylvainmoreau]

ih ok i heard it now ! yeah you'r right probably the best thing i heard on zebra... but not as exciting as massive bow sound :/ mmm i'll have to stick with massive for that maybe.

[clangorous]

If you play with the envelope settings you can emphasize the bowing sound. Change the ENV 1 mode to v-slope and you get a slider to the right. Adjust the slider and the attack time until you get the bow sound just right.

A nice trick get a REALLY nasty bow sound with this patch is to adjust the ENV2 settings that control the Damp parameter of COMB 1. Set the attack of ENV 2 a little faster and move the v-slope slider until you get a nice scratchy warble on the attack.

I also add a noise module to mixer lane 2 and set to pink noise with HP Filter set high around 80. Set mixer lane 2 to ENV 3 and set a very short attack, with decay, sustain and release at zero. Blend that with the volume dial to taste.

Here is a sample patch with these three tweaks emphasized:
HS Violince - Take a Bow

[Howard]

Here is a sample patch with these three tweaks emphasized:
HS Violince - Take a Bow

[clangorous]

Here is a sample patch with these three tweaks emphasized:
HS Violince - Take a Bow

You just made my day Howard

[Howard]

Forgot to mention: There are several flavours of "mellotronish" bowed strings in the Zebratron soundset. See "Bowed" audio clip on this page...
https://u-he.com/products/soundsets/zeb ... #zebratron

[sylvainmoreau]

Didn't have time to try your preste will do tomorrow !!

[sylvainmoreau]

Thanx clangorous ! got that sound. I can see the bow effect.
i also bouth the Zebratron and there's really some nice textured strings (and others) there for sure.
i messed up all my folders with presets :p i don't really understand the organisation with zebra2 and zebraHZ.. i'll uninstall all and try to reinstall fresh.

[clangorous]

Forgot to mention: There are several flavours of "mellotronish" bowed strings in the Zebratron soundset. See "Bowed" audio clip on this page...
https://u-he.com/products/soundsets/zeb ... #zebratron

Wow Howard, those are absolutely beautiful! In fact the whole sound set is stunning. I am not trying to be a commercial here...but I had to buy it! Thank you for pointing it out as I had not previously looked at it. I'm making music tonight

[clangorous]

Thanx clangorous ! got that sound. I can see the bow effect.
i also bouth the Zebratron and there's really some nice textured strings (and others) there for sure.
i messed up all my folders with presets :p i don't really understand the organisation with zebra2 and zebraHZ.. i'll uninstall all and try to reinstall fresh.

Hope you were able to get things sorted sylvain!

[Ah_Dziz]

Filtered noise with controllable amplitude fed into the comb filter will get you some good “bowed” sounds. Alternating between positive and negative feedback can also simulate a change in “bowing position”. I’m sure that you could make some other interesting “bow noise” for exciting the combs with the extremely flexible oscillators. I like to use an fm osc modulated by bandpassed noise.