Fathom Synth Development Thread

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AmbieticA
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63 posts since 8 Mar, 2019

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:16 pm

FathomSynth wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:53 am
Thanks everyone who signed up for the license installer beta test group.
I'm in for all the beta testing :) I'll make sure you get extensive testing and good feedback. :) And when it comes to testing 2.33, I have some CPU intensive patches I just made ready to go. I'll max Fathom out, to see what it can and can't do.
Ambient Sound Design & Soundtrack Composition - http://ambietica.lyonsdenmultimedia.com/

Inversion Of Control
KVRist
61 posts since 9 Jan, 2018

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:24 pm

"After that will be the Intel AVX Vector Processing release which will also include Fathom FX the Effects version of Fathom with the ability to route host audio on a track through any of Fathom's filters or effects. And it will also include the FM Synthesis change which allows different FM parameters in all connected FM oscillators as well as FM feedback routing."

Wow, that will be a massive upgrade.
To tell the truth I think you should sell Fathom FX as separate product.

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planetearth
KVRAF
1582 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 pm

biscuitdough wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:46 am
Perhaps only slightly relevant, since the dev has already stated the copy protection won't be iLok:

I use one iLok synth, Loom 2. I found iLok to be easy to register and activate. No complaints with iLok itself. However, either the synth or the iLok licenser installed Bonjour and apparently depends on it. That was the only irritation for me - I'm on Windows and I don't see the need for a redundant, Apple-proprietary device manager on my system.
Loom 2 doesn't require Bonjour, though it seems to install it. I uninstalled Bonjour after I found it on my system a few days after installing Loom 2. I've had no problems since then, and I tested Loom 2 again just now, to be sure.

Steve
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biscuitdough
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42 posts since 8 Jun, 2019

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:54 pm

planetearth wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 pm
biscuitdough wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:46 am
Perhaps only slightly relevant, since the dev has already stated the copy protection won't be iLok:

I use one iLok synth, Loom 2. I found iLok to be easy to register and activate. No complaints with iLok itself. However, either the synth or the iLok licenser installed Bonjour and apparently depends on it. That was the only irritation for me - I'm on Windows and I don't see the need for a redundant, Apple-proprietary device manager on my system.
Loom 2 doesn't require Bonjour, though it seems to install it. I uninstalled Bonjour after I found it on my system a few days after installing Loom 2. I've had no problems since then, and I tested Loom 2 again just now, to be sure.

Steve
Thanks. Looks like it's time to say "se voit en enfer" to Bonjour.

glokraw
KVRAF
7038 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:23 pm

Chat vs play today, and play won by 3 touchdowns :hyper:

So made a little cheery (hopefully) fathom loop.
If the preset designer to blame for the preset
I used guesses which sound I used,
I'll definitely buy their next two banks :hihi:
Cheers
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Kwurqx
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439 posts since 15 Jun, 2017

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:35 pm

FathomSynth wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:53 am
Thanks everyone who signed up for the license installer beta test group.
Hi Everett,

I was shocked when you recently announced the untimely demise of Fathom due to piracy. Great to see that it was merely a near death experience and life goes on! And that Fathom still/again has a future, so bright, I gotta wear shades.

If you think I can help you steer Fathom towards an even brighter future, sign me up for closed group and/or beta testing. I'd be happy to have any part in Fathoms succes.

FathomSynth
KVRian
1258 posts since 25 Mar, 2017

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:47 pm

OK, you are on the license protection beta list.

More details will be released to all beta testers shorty.

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dandezebra
KVRian
1223 posts since 21 Dec, 2013 from USA

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:51 pm

I am not (yet) a super synth guru yet either but I would be happy to help in any way I can.

FathomSynth
KVRian
1258 posts since 25 Mar, 2017

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:17 pm

OK, you're on the beta test list.

glokraw
KVRAF
7038 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm

planetearth wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 pm
biscuitdough wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:46 am
Perhaps only slightly relevant, since the dev has already stated the copy protection won't be iLok:

I use one iLok synth, Loom 2. I found iLok to be easy to register and activate. No complaints with iLok itself. However, either the synth or the iLok licenser installed Bonjour and apparently depends on it. That was the only irritation for me - I'm on Windows and I don't see the need for a redundant, Apple-proprietary device manager on my system.
Loom 2 doesn't require Bonjour, though it seems to install it. I uninstalled Bonjour after I found it on my system a few days after installing Loom 2. I've had no problems since then, and I tested Loom 2 again just now, to be sure.

Steve
There's a chance that software ilok manager uses Bon Jour to communicate.
You might need that to temp deactivate an AIR product for a system fix etc
I'd google around a bit for some precise info. I think all the AIR products
install Bon Jour, and some always say it's installed wrong,
and want to replace it :dog:
Not AIR's most graceful ballet :wink:

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fmr
KVRAF
8841 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:54 am

glokraw wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm
I'd google around a bit for some precise info. I think all the AIR products
install Bon Jour, and some always say it's installed wrong,
and want to replace it :dog:
Not AIR's most graceful ballet :wink:
Bonjour is installed as part of the iLOK License Manager software. If you download the installer from the iLOK site, you'll see it. I don't know if it is necessary or not (if it isn't then they are even more dumb than I thought) but I think that's how they manage licenses trasfer to/from the keys, etc.

It isn't necessary for AIR instruments to run "per se" - just for the iLOK protection.
Fernando (FMR)

bibz1st
KVRAF
1640 posts since 29 Mar, 2013

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:22 am

Many hands make light work and all that so I'll also help if I can :)
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
3081 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:20 am

iLOK might use Bonjour to check for multiple installs running at the same time on different computers... If they don't check if its installed at all, all is good. But each time they update their app (happens often) it will be installed again... Bonjour is a useful technology btw...

zzz00m
KVRAF
1954 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:43 am

I'll just be happy with anything that protects the project from piracy abuse. And a big plus for us will be the one click installer!
Windows 10; with instruments from AAS, Ableton, AIR, Ample Sound, Cakewalk, IK Multimedia, iZotope, KV331, NI, PreSonus, Seaweed Audio, SONiVOX, TAL, Tracktion, u-he, UVI, Vember Audio, Waves, Way Out Ware, XLN, others...

FathomSynth
KVRian
1258 posts since 25 Mar, 2017

Re: Fathom Synth Development Thread

Post Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:16 am

bibz1st, ok you are on the beta test list.

Yes, it will be a one button press to install the preset files and a one button press to install the license.

Users will have the choice of a quick direct com to the server to install the license or an automated email which will reply in ten seconds with the key. Whichever they prefer. Com with the server or email is only necessary once during installation and never again, certainly not when running the VST. It is a user account license not a machine lock so users will be able to run on as many machines or hardware upgrades as they want. There will also be a fail safe backup plan if my server goes down or I go on vacation which will consist of a key free installation in the possession of all my sound designers who will release it upon individual request if certain conditions occur. This will be in place so the community and no single user will ever be trapped without a running copy.

I will also be re-reading all the uhe license threads since many people like their system and we will be paying some mind toward the best part of that system in constructing ours. Obviously out of respect for uhe we will not be copying it directly, but simply considering it as a general model for something that people like.

Anyway, the beta test group will be testing this thoroughly so it is easy and flawless for end users when released.

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