personal. a kvr member shared it with me, but didn't work for me. try to buy a $75 pa voucher via kvr?
EDIT: or personal, it is a heavy hitter discount. if you aren't one... me thinks.
personal. a kvr member shared it with me, but didn't work for me. try to buy a $75 pa voucher via kvr?
I do not understand when these assessments are made freely. This synth is the best in terms of possibilities of modulation, FX and oscillators. Sounds great. Nor do I understand people who complain about the price, if you are a loyal user, you can get it for 99 $ + 50 $ coupon of the month. I could buy it for 49 $ !!!
For heavy hitters, not necessarily loyal UA customers though. It's weird that buying all of the Elyisa and Brainworx plugins, for example, might grant you heavy hitter status, qualifying you for a discount, but owning most of the UA plugs, especially BYOME and or TRIAD doesn't. PA pricing is a bit backwards sometimes. As an owner of Black Box, I'm eligible for a discount on Phil's Cascade, two plugins from two separate devs, with no crossover in code/shared libaries etc. However, as an owner of every UA plugin except Zip, I/we get no discount on LION, despite the huge amount of crossover with BYOME/TRIAD. It doesn't make sense and is just one of the many ways PA makes such a hash of things in the commercial department.
I love the synth, but it isn't the best in terms of sound quality, to be honest. For instance; try modulate the PW in the stack with the square osc's. It is nasty and offsetting, resulting in distorted modulation.inforlk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:14 amI do not understand when these assessments are made freely. This synth is the best in terms of possibilities of modulation, FX and oscillators. Sounds great. Nor do I understand people who complain about the price, if you are a loyal user, you can get it for 99 $ + 50 $ coupon of the month. I could buy it for 49 $ !!!
One suggestion is that LION as TRIAD has the resolution scale percentage on its menu. To save settings
To be able to open the plugin without having to scale resolution.
Forgive me, it was getting late. Let me explain :
inforlk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:14 amI do not understand when these assessments are made freely. This synth is the best in terms of possibilities of modulation, FX and oscillators. Sounds great. Nor do I understand people who complain about the price, if you are a loyal user, you can get it for 99 $ + 50 $ coupon of the month. I could buy it for 49 $ !!!
One suggestion is that LION as TRIAD has the resolution scale percentage on its menu. To save settings
To be able to open the plugin without having to scale resolution.
Agreed. Also the UI gives me a headache, especially the side scrolling even in wide mode.dionenoid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:43 amForgive me, it was getting late. Let me explain :
- The envelopes have no punch or snappyness.
- The filters are cold and lifeless.
- There is this weird stuff going on in the high frequencies most of the time.
- Most of the fx are mediocre (i'm not a fan of the other UA stuff either).
I guess that if you want to make chip-tune-like sounds and weird soundscapes you can have fun with this synth, but there are plenty of alternatives that can do more, sound better and are even cheaper.
Overall the sound is as flat as a pancake. You can build all the possibilities you want into a synth, but if the fundamentals are wrong, it will never sound good.
That's what my conclusions were after demoing the thing.
Indeed, I tried applying my voucher when not logged in and nothing happened. When I apply it after logging into my account, the discount is applied...
Yeah.WasteLand wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:59 pm i am no expert, i use the "beta" version, but it seems like that the oversampling setting (online) influences the character of the main filter, they get more drive. i analyze it, not in an expert way, there is no aliasing or not that "visible".
the sound when the filter is on gets "highs", harmonics likely. when you change oversampling. i use very simple presets, my own...
in my experience oversampling does not drastically changes the sound of the filter, i mean the difference is: at 1x: dull sound: at 2x: screams... it seems like there is more aliasing.......... but i am no expert... i program my soft-synths always from scratch, i use oversampling when necessary, but this. it makes a complete different sound.
it also gives you the feeling that you do not know what is the "correct" sound.
i didn't test it this way. i used mmultianalyzer, there is a better tool for this, but don't where i left it..exmatproton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:32 pmYeah.WasteLand wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:59 pm i am no expert, i use the "beta" version, but it seems like that the oversampling setting (online) influences the character of the main filter, they get more drive. i analyze it, not in an expert way, there is no aliasing or not that "visible".
the sound when the filter is on gets "highs", harmonics likely. when you change oversampling. i use very simple presets, my own...
in my experience oversampling does not drastically changes the sound of the filter, i mean the difference is: at 1x: dull sound: at 2x: screams... it seems like there is more aliasing.......... but i am no expert... i program my soft-synths always from scratch, i use oversampling when necessary, but this. it makes a complete different sound.
it also gives you the feeling that you do not know what is the "correct" sound.
I disabled the main filter and set the Simple Sine OSC to 50% with no second OSC and the Linear XFade mixing setting. The master GAIN is at -10dB and the SINE still isn't clean. @ 8x oversampling there is still aliasing present. My soundcard is set to 48000Hz.
Spire, Serum, Avenger, Diva, Falcon, Massive X and don't forget Sylenth1 and Synthmaster.
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