Its not an actual X-Y curve. Its an analogy; steep slopes are harder to climb.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:41 am If the learning curve is steep, doesn't it mean, that you learn quickly?
As always, you put the time on the x-axis, and here, the amount of things you learn in the y-axis.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
An other climber...whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:34 amIts not an actual X-Y curve. Its an analogy; steep slopes are harder to climb.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:41 am If the learning curve is steep, doesn't it mean, that you learn quickly?
As always, you put the time on the x-axis, and here, the amount of things you learn in the y-axis.
Sorry, this is really endearing, no evil intentions. The metaphora must be invented in the USA.
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- KVRian
- 861 posts since 15 Jul, 2016
Climb a steep mountain vs a gentle hill man. You can see which is more difficult.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:28 amWhat an intellectual reply.sircuit wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:21 am A steep learning curve is a curve that is harder to climb. Is not the one from the XY graphs which no matter how you draw it (concave/convex), at the end all shapes take up the same time interval (thus making the concept of steep and gentle slope irrelevant).
So, the explanation is "harder to climb".Climb what? Yes, the curve. But the point is, of course, WHAT is the curve, which I tried to explain above.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I have no idea what the f**k you're talking about. Basic research on your part would confirm 'steep curve = slower' is the common usage by native English speakers.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:40 amAn other climber...whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:34 amIts not an actual X-Y curve. Its an analogy; steep slopes are harder to climb.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:41 am If the learning curve is steep, doesn't it mean, that you learn quickly?
As always, you put the time on the x-axis, and here, the amount of things you learn in the y-axis.
The metaphora must be invented in the USA.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Yes, exactly, that's what I mean. Someone, sometime in the past has made a goof, and since that, everyone (or most of) have blindly followed that. And have afterwards found a "rational" explanation for this. It really is "common".whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:45 amI have no idea what the f**k you're talking about. Basic research on your part would confirm 'steep curve = slower' is the common usage by native English speakers.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:40 amAn other climber...whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:34 amIts not an actual X-Y curve. Its an analogy; steep slopes are harder to climb.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:41 am If the learning curve is steep, doesn't it mean, that you learn quickly?
As always, you put the time on the x-axis, and here, the amount of things you learn in the y-axis.
The metaphora must be invented in the USA.
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- KVRAF
- 2048 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany
And what has this to do with Falcon ?
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
We need words to describe things, you know.
Pointing out silly semantics, helps us all.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of how language evolves, and a flawed post-rationalisation all of its own. Ergo equally "common."Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:58 am Yes, exactly, that's what I mean. Someone, sometime in the past has made a goof, and since that, everyone (or most of) have blindly followed that. And have afterwards found a "rational" explanation for this. It really is "common".
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
As fundamental is the misunderstanding, that the language evolves just in one way. It has several paths. You don't know, nor me, how that expression was born. If you do, I'm most interested reading about your sources.whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:04 amThat's a fundamental misunderstanding of how language evolves, and a flawed post-rationalisation all of its own. Ergo equally "common."Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:58 am Yes, exactly, that's what I mean. Someone, sometime in the past has made a goof, and since that, everyone (or most of) have blindly followed that. And have afterwards found a "rational" explanation for this. It really is "common".
So far, my point is relevant.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Strawman. I didnt make any such claim.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:10 am As fundamental is the misunderstanding, that the language evolves just in one way.
I know you don't. Even though you specifically claimed to...You don't know, nor me, how that expression was born.
"Someone, sometime in the past has made a goof, and since that, everyone (or most of) have blindly followed that"
Hell, you even claim to know where it was born.
Hypocrite much?
What point? The one where you don't understand the meaning of a phrase, or the one where you falsely claim to know how the meaning of the phrase became established?So far, my point is relevant.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 861 posts since 15 Jul, 2016
He’s trolling. Should’ve seen it earlier.whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:15 amStrawman. I didnt make any such claim.Harry_HH wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:10 am As fundamental is the misunderstanding, that the language evolves just in one way.
I know you don't. Even though you specifically claimed to...You don't know, nor me, how that expression was born.
"Someone, sometime in the past has made a goof, and since that, everyone (or most of) have blindly followed that"
Hell, you even claim to know where it was born.
Hypocrite much?
What point? The one where you don't understand the meaning of a phrase, or the one where you falsely claim to know how the meaning of the phrase became established?So far, my point is relevant.
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- KVRist
- 419 posts since 11 Jan, 2014