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tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having.
Are you suggesting someone said that is the case? I only see that the point was made that a couple of people in the other thread took offense. Where has anyone said that the opinions of everyone else should be discarded?

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tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:21 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:53 pm
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:44 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:33 pm
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Yes! Pointing out that a developer was condescending while sending an inappropriate email to paying customers constitutes "intolerance, gaslighting , racketeering and hostility". Are you sure it's not you who needs a "safe space".
Define the inappropriate content in the email?
The intent of the email was inappropriate. The rest was just the sprinkles on the turd :tu:
Who was the intent of the email inappropriate for? If it was appropriate for most users won't it be just your personal feeling that makes you think it's "inappropriate"?
Well, there have been a few of us who seemed to have found it to be inappropriate. Not that the opinion of one person isn't valid, but perhaps you could give me an indication of how many agreeing opinions would be necessary for us to have the right to express our concerns :tu:
Finally you clarified your definition of inappropriate. When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having. Mkay that's good.
Putting aside the irony that the guy who used "intolerance, gaslighting , racketeering and hostility" now seems to want to drill down to the finer points concerning definitions, my question remains unanswered: How many dissenting opinions would be necessary for us to have the right to express our concerns?

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I suggest Ben to close KVRaudio and to create a KVRWinAudio on a side, a KVROSXAudio on another side and a KVRLinuxAudio on a third side (in any order of his choice or pulled from a hat).
:D

Hmmm... A KVRAndroidAudio on a fourth side would be perhaps also a good idea...
:tu:

That way everybody would be satisfied...
:borg:

... except perhaps Ben himself.
:lol:
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Well that would suck. How am i supposed to tell the Apple guys that they suck then. :(

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:45 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having.
Are you suggesting someone said that is the case? I only see that the point was made that a couple of people in the other thread took offense. Where has anyone said that the opinions of everyone else should be discarded?
And you changed "other poster's" position to "your" comfort zone. He said "a few". Those who began to call people stated their honest opinion inappropriate is you, not us. Are you practicing some mental gymnastics now?

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Years ago Microsoft went from 32 bit to 64 on their server products. It was 2008 R2. They still offer the option of both on the client side. It will eventually happen in a future Microsoft OS. Same problems will ensue on a much larger scale.

From a support perspective Apple offers n-2 as supported OS. So stick with High Sierra or Mojave. If there was ever an opportunity for an extended support beyond 2 versions, now is the time. Meaning if you can upgrade to Mojave, you might be able to stick it out even longer based on how developers and users get along with Catalina.

Neither Microsoft or Apple are forcing you to upgrade.
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tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:30 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:45 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having.
Are you suggesting someone said that is the case? I only see that the point was made that a couple of people in the other thread took offense. Where has anyone said that the opinions of everyone else should be discarded?
And you changed "other poster's" position to "your" comfort zone. He said "a few". Those who began to call people stated their honest opinion inappropriate is you, not us. Are you practicing some mental gymnastics now?
I have no clue what you are trying to say here - can you rewrite that so it makes sense, then I’ll respond.

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:38 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:30 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:45 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having.
Are you suggesting someone said that is the case? I only see that the point was made that a couple of people in the other thread took offense. Where has anyone said that the opinions of everyone else should be discarded?
And you changed "other poster's" position to "your" comfort zone. He said "a few". Those who began to call people stated their honest opinion inappropriate is you, not us. Are you practicing some mental gymnastics now?
I have no clue what you are trying to say here - can you rewrite that so it makes sense, then I’ll respond.
You couldn't get the context because you quoted the post which weren't replied to you in the first place.
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tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:41 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:38 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:30 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:45 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having.
Are you suggesting someone said that is the case? I only see that the point was made that a couple of people in the other thread took offense. Where has anyone said that the opinions of everyone else should be discarded?
And you changed "other poster's" position to "your" comfort zone. He said "a few". Those who began to call people stated their honest opinion inappropriate is you, not us. Are you practicing some mental gymnastics now?
I have no clue what you are trying to say here - can you rewrite that so it makes sense, then I’ll respond.
You couldn't follow the context because you quoted the post which aren't replied to you in the first place.
I couldn’t follow because it’s a random jumble of words that makes no sense...

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superscan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:34 pm Years ago Microsoft went from 32 bit to 64 on their server products. It was 2008 R2. They still offer the option of both on the client side. It will eventually happen in a future Microsoft OS. Same problems will ensue on a much larger scale.
If i had to guess, maybe 10 years from now. If even.

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:43 pm I couldn’t follow because it’s a random jumble of words that makes no sense...
tooneba has the answer:
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:58 pm It's like talking to NPC which returns same looping response, right? :hihi:
Top chatbotting, tooneba!

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I spent my evening last night installing a second copy of Windows 7 64 on a 1 terabyte drive after somehow corrupting Linux Mint 18.3 the night before when trying to uninstall the previous version of WINE to get the latest version of it. In that process it broke the Synaptic Package Manager.

As Linux is really an alternative OS that is really a test bed bridging app for Windows, the resulting effect of Windows 7 taking over the main boot sector of the drive and rendering the Linux operating system in accessible, it's not really so much of a big deal. I can always fix the Linux system and boot priority by re-installing.

My main 500 Gig Windows 7 64 Bit OS drive will still be my primary drive because it's got almost 10 years of worth of programs and data on it. On the other drive with Windows 7, I'm gonna migrate that to Windows 10 and have Windows 7 as a fall back OS should anything screw up with Windows 10 which is really only going to be used with specific programs that will take advantage of the extra ram I have installed.. which is really main reason for having Windows 10. Presonus Studio One actually has a feature that will scale plugins when using higher resolutions so there's that as well.

On Windows 10, I'll have Adobe Photoshop CS6 (possibly Adobe CS2 Production Suite that has Illustrator & After Effects), Maxon Cinema 4D, Studio One Pro 4.5, Pixologic's ZBrush 2019 applications, Hitfilm 2019 and a few specialist programs / utilities for graphic / code editing, video productions. No huge games, or unnecessary stuff... Forgot to add Davinci Resolve (recent versions) cause it don't work on Win 7 now.

As I hate Windows 10's flat look, I'll be addressing that as well, stripping it of any crap it has and locking it down so it's not feeding Microsoft anything. I've been using Windows since the version they called 98se....XP, Vista and Windows 7 which has been excellent as an OS for everything.

The last time I used an IMac was in 2010 and as I mentioned earlier in this thread for video production. It was back then a real frustrating experience with Final Cut providing the spinning wheel of death at random intervals throughout a day. My knowledge and understanding of operating systems dated back to the Atari Mega ST days of the 1990's, and that of the 386 / 486, Acorn Archimedes I used in school along with the RM Nimbus, whilst also the Commodore Amiga range like the 500/1200... where a mouse cursor was involved.

Working with Apples Mac OS really felt pretty meh and my fellow colleague that I worked with really got to know how much dislike I had for it's programs just crashing whenever and without any explanation why. Prior to that when I was studying, the primary platform at the Uni/College I was studying at between 2005 and 2008, 98% of all computers in the building were PC based.
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Gamma-UT wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:56 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:43 pm I couldn’t follow because it’s a random jumble of words that makes no sense...
tooneba has the answer:
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:58 pm It's like talking to NPC which returns same looping response, right? :hihi:
Top chatbotting, tooneba!
:hihi:

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:43 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:41 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:38 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:30 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:45 pm
tooneba wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:25 pm When 2 individuals in the thread expressed their feeling the evaluation has been determined no matter what opinion other people in the world are having.
Are you suggesting someone said that is the case? I only see that the point was made that a couple of people in the other thread took offense. Where has anyone said that the opinions of everyone else should be discarded?
And you changed "other poster's" position to "your" comfort zone. He said "a few". Those who began to call people stated their honest opinion inappropriate is you, not us. Are you practicing some mental gymnastics now?
I have no clue what you are trying to say here - can you rewrite that so it makes sense, then I’ll respond.
You couldn't follow the context because you quoted the post which aren't replied to you in the first place.
I couldn’t follow because it’s a random jumble of words that makes no sense...
Then go back to read them. You threw "a few people in this thread + couple of people in the other thread" into previous conversation to alter the precondition of the argument.

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I see the debate and rage continues...
nothing changes...
Im still
toonertik wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:52 pm not much reaction..
I'm a dozer
but
maybe a scratch balls and go, ok...
your decision...
are u sure it's a good decision?

and keep scratching...
OFC...

:oops:
OFC


Except when I'm laughing too much

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