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russeault
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39 posts since 19 Jun, 2018 from USA

Post Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:44 pm

Moral question: if I buy a second hand license or account takeover but the developer doesn't allow transfers, isn't just the same as pirating?
I think that would depend upon your faith tradition. Not all faiths speak with one voice on the ethics of using software outside the terms of the EULA. I would consult a trusted faith leader (confidentially) before embarking on a course so potentially fraught with peril. But if you're a Methodist, I'd say it's OK.

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cptgone
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5319 posts since 1 Aug, 2003

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Post Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:49 pm

citidela wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:33 pm
Moral question: if I buy a second hand license or account takeover but the developer doesn't allow transfers, isn't just the same as pirating?
Up to you to decide, unless the post above applies.

To further complicate things:
IIRC, prohibiting transfers is illegal in the EU.

OneOfManyPauls
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938 posts since 17 Jul, 2016 from Wales, UK

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Post Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:53 pm

spectrasonics tackle that one head-on - although they are hardly an independent observer:
I've heard that unrestricted license transfers/used sales are legal in some countries in Europe. Is this true?
No, but it's a common misunderstanding of the laws. Spectrasonics Virtual Instruments come with two licenses - one for the software and one for the sound recordings (core library samples). Some countries in Europe (such as Germany and Denmark) have laws which allow the unrestricted resale of consumer software and used consumer music CDs. However, these laws do not apply to professional samples/virtual instruments like ours that are used in the creation of new musical works/recordings. So the license agreement for all Spectrasonics products is applicable in the same way throughout the world.
https://www.spectrasonics.net/support/k ... egoryID=78

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citidela
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146 posts since 13 Aug, 2015

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Post Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:17 pm

My country doesn't even have proper copyrights for music software, you can buy it cracked at my third world ebay-clone. So culture or faith is not an issue :P Thanks guys, maybe at the end of the day is what keeps your conscious clean.
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VincentVega
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51 posts since 16 Nov, 2011

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Post Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:43 pm

citidela wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:17 pm
My country doesn't even have proper copyrights for music software, you can buy it cracked at my third world ebay-clone. So culture or faith is not an issue :P Thanks guys, maybe at the end of the day is what keeps your concious clean.
let me guess...Arg?

epiphaneia
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715 posts since 29 May, 2011 from Germany

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:48 am

After having bought BFD because I had a deadline to meet, I´m now lusting after a few more expansions. Without any deadline pressure, I could easily wait until the next sale, provided I can curb my g.a.s... I hadn´t followed BFD so far, do BFD expansion sales happen regularly?

@Uncle E ... or maybe you, as so often, have a few left from the last sale, know more about the next sale, or is there a better discount for a 5-pack? :hihi:

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citidela
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146 posts since 13 Aug, 2015

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:24 am

VincentVega wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:43 pm
citidela wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:17 pm
My country doesn't even have proper copyrights for music software, you can buy it cracked at my third world ebay-clone. So culture or faith is not an issue :P Thanks guys, maybe at the end of the day is what keeps your conscious clean.
let me guess...Arg?
hahaha you nailed it perfectly! It could be any country from Latin America or Africa tho :dog: :help:

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Omkar
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893 posts since 25 Dec, 2007 from Hamburg,Germany

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:37 am

I remember there was a question due to N4, sale a tad bit extended:

Shared via Facebook 5 hrs ago,
"For those who missed the N4 sale..Please get it NOW and delay no more!!!! 48hrs..no more!!!!!!!
Note: There will not be any newsletter send to your email. The announce is only here and on AA FB. Kindly share this in Gearslutz etc forums."

I do not like pressure sales so please don`t kill the messenger,
it basically says 48h more to evaluate the N4 sale.
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chk071
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22439 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:40 am

citidela wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:33 pm
Moral question: if I buy a second hand license or account takeover but the developer doesn't allow transfers, isn't just the same as pirating?
You could say that, yearh. It's the same thing as breaking one of the other rules you agreed to, when you agree to the usage terms.

Whether or not it is illegal is another question, because, the legality of the usage terms would have to be proven before court.

classicalaudionewbie
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28 posts since 31 Aug, 2018

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:42 am

Does anyone know if there’s likely to be another sitewide 70% Acustica sale for BF or end of year? Looking to pick up Gold or Navy at some point and missed the Navy 2 intro sale.
Omkar wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:37 am
I remember there was a question due to N4, sale a tad bit extended:

Shared via Facebook 5 hrs ago,
"For those who missed the N4 sale..Please get it NOW and delay no more!!!! 48hrs..no more!!!!!!!
Note: There will not be any newsletter send to your email. The announce is only here and on AA FB. Kindly share this in Gearslutz etc forums."

I do not like pressure sales so please don`t kill the messenger,
it basically says 48h more to evaluate the N4 sale.

litzblitz
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23 posts since 9 Jul, 2012

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:17 pm

Omkar wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:37 am
I remember there was a question due to N4, sale a tad bit extended:

Shared via Facebook 5 hrs ago,
"For those who missed the N4 sale..Please get it NOW and delay no more!!!! 48hrs..no more!!!!!!!
Note: There will not be any newsletter send to your email. The announce is only here and on AA FB. Kindly share this in Gearslutz etc forums."

I do not like pressure sales so please don`t kill the messenger,
it basically says 48h more to evaluate the N4 sale.
Hey thanks for the info.

I have the Nebula plugin since they started it but I stopped using it - too much hassle. I have an old Nebula3 pro and I logged into my account. Is it right that they still want well over 100 USD after the 70% or did I overlook sth. ..?

JerGoertz
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2526 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:50 pm

litzblitz wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:17 pm
Omkar wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:37 am
I remember there was a question due to N4, sale a tad bit extended:

Shared via Facebook 5 hrs ago,
"For those who missed the N4 sale..Please get it NOW and delay no more!!!! 48hrs..no more!!!!!!!
Note: There will not be any newsletter send to your email. The announce is only here and on AA FB. Kindly share this in Gearslutz etc forums."

I do not like pressure sales so please don`t kill the messenger,
it basically says 48h more to evaluate the N4 sale.
Hey thanks for the info.

I have the Nebula plugin since they started it but I stopped using it - too much hassle. I have an old Nebula3 pro and I logged into my account. Is it right that they still want well over 100 USD after the 70% or did I overlook sth. ..?
That's correct, the discount is 70% off 399Eur, so 119.70Eur with the discount.
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Insanelysane
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385 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:59 pm

classicalaudionewbie wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:42 am
Does anyone know if there’s likely to be another sitewide 70% Acustica sale for BF or end of year? Looking to pick up Gold or Navy at some point and missed the Navy 2 intro sale.
Omkar wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:37 am
I remember there was a question due to N4, sale a tad bit extended:

Shared via Facebook 5 hrs ago,
"For those who missed the N4 sale..Please get it NOW and delay no more!!!! 48hrs..no more!!!!!!!
Note: There will not be any newsletter send to your email. The announce is only here and on AA FB. Kindly share this in Gearslutz etc forums."

I do not like pressure sales so please don`t kill the messenger,
it basically says 48h more to evaluate the N4 sale.
This is something I had been weighing up too - but its risky as BF could easily only be 30-50% off on some plugins not others. You may as well hold out and see what AA will do but I doubt they'll give away another 70% on anything opportunity, that percentage drop is something they hadnt done ever prior to the big one a few months ago.

Also, there is Modula which will be released this or next month I believe, that'll be their big drawing card. No one knows how its all gonna work but Nebula will not be necessary to use Modula and is a purchase that I passed on because of this - Nebula is complex and only one aspect of their growth.

So with your plugin wishlist I reckon you'll have at least one well discounted but can you live with 30-50% off price tag when you knew it could've been had for 70%? :)

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shidostrife
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674 posts since 22 Nov, 2016 from Tokyo, Japan

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:08 pm

Is there an end date for the DiscoDSP sale?

hardwired
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306 posts since 25 Oct, 2004

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Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:04 pm

shidostrife wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:08 pm
Is there an end date for the DiscoDSP sale?
According to DiscoDSP's website, it ends December 1st

EDIT: to add that here at he KVR Marketplace, it's apparently going until December 3rd...and the prices are better here than getting direct from DiscoDSP

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