Zebra3 for Android?

[Forgotten]

Android doesn’t really have much of a user base for music apps though, does it? Mobile music is mostly iOS.

That would be the point, a gazzillion target hardware devices,
priced well under the competing hardware,
and very little competition.

But I think iOS devices handle Audio much better than Android, which is why the iOS market has been more successful.

Things might change in the future, but it feels like Android missed the boat as a music audio platform. Take a look at how many companies have produced an iOS version of their software but not an Android version.

[glokraw]

Again, the boat is still at the dock, an opportunity not taken
does not equal an opportunity missed. The future exists.
IK Multimedia address android audio limits, just like pc gear makers
address typical motherboard audio limits: they provide an audio interface of high quality, with low latency.

[HTT]

What are the chances of an Android build of Zebra3?
Could be having the greatest synth ever made becoming available
on one of the most used operating systems ever, would be
a winning combo. Not counting a 100 million Samsung Galaxy phones,
some tablet sales stats

____________2018 ____________2017
Apple_______44.9 million_____43.8 million
Samsung____23.1 million_____24.4 million
Huawei______15.4 million_____13.3 million
Amazon _____11.9 million_____12.4 million
Lenovo_______8.8 million_____10.3 million
Others ______69.7 million_____81.0 million
Total ______173.8 million____185.2 million

Thats about 50 million fairly modern tablets from
just Samsung, Huawei, and Amazon, not counting
2019 models, and plenty of smart-phones that bulge
the target count. Even a miniscule fraction at iOS app
pricing might be a moneymaker, let alone a happy pill
for musicians with android hardware being under-utilized.

Here's a couple android audio vids using tablets
with the G-Stomper software:

iOS would be better, but I don't see the point. In my experience, u-he synths excel with comprehensive haptic input, to meet the software potential, beyond what a tablet/phone can supply.

Somewhat related, I have Synthmaster for iOS. It is a limited shadow of Synthmaster 2.9. Bottom line: tablets/phones might be fine for controlling some parameters, but make for poor musical platforms.

[lunardigs]

Guitar-rig type stuff makes good sense, provided the latency be less than a quarter second.

Believe it or not, I use my MOD DUO with a UE MEGABOOM and it really sounds great. I even use my bass guitar though it, which is a challenge, yet I've got a workable timbre.

[glokraw]

Can MOD use a carla-rack plugin to host U-he linux vst synths?
TyrellN6, Beatzille, Podolski and Zebralette wouldn't stress Santa,
or Mrs. Claus too much, and there is that 30%-off coupon on the hearth

[glokraw]

@ HTT:
There are tons of videos showing music production that happens
without desktop computers, or multi$thousand$multi dollar
keyboard workstations. Small phone/tablet devices are often
more productive than using the tiny screens on the under $1000 keyboards
with their notorious if not daft menu-diving regimens.

But options keep appearing, and things are getting better all the time.
All cups half full, and rising (and fear not the torpedoes )

[medienhexer]

Guitar-rig type stuff makes good sense, provided the latency be less than a quarter second.

Believe it or not, I use my MOD DUO with a UE MEGABOOM and it really sounds great. I even use my bass guitar though it, which is a challenge, yet I've got a workable timbre.

I‘m pretty sure most guitarists need below 10ms of latency for that ‚connected‘ feel. That’s 1/100s. In terms of audio performance, that’s different worlds.

[lunardigs]

Guitar-rig type stuff makes good sense, provided the latency be less than a quarter second.

Believe it or not, I use my MOD DUO with a UE MEGABOOM and it really sounds great. I even use my bass guitar though it, which is a challenge, yet I've got a workable timbre.

I‘m pretty sure most guitarists need below 10ms of latency for that ‚connected‘ feel. That’s 1/100s. In terms of audio performance, that’s different worlds.

I'd agree; ~5ms area sounds decent to me. I can play at ~23ms, but it's not very enjoyable. Anything north of that is unworkable IMO.

Keys OTOH, a couple hundred ms, depending on the patch, might be workable.

[mevla]

I‘m pretty sure most guitarists need below 10ms of latency for that ‚connected‘ feel. That’s 1/100s. In terms of audio performance, that’s different worlds.

10ms would be the upper limit. I can't record acoustic guitar using headphones (in Bitwig) if the latency is greater than 10 ms or so. Maybe 12ms. If not it becomes a job of compensating to get the rhythm feel and that's no fun, it is not 'playing' music anymore. And never gives good results at the feeling level. This said, I'm an average player, not a super technician.

[lunardigs]

Can MOD use a carla-rack plugin to host U-he linux vst synths?
TyrellN6, Beatzille, Podolski and Zebralette wouldn't stress Santa,
or Mrs. Claus too much, and there is that 30%-off coupon on the hearth

Possibly, if you hack it--which it's open to, for the most part--although, I'm pretty sure we're still talking about compiling said plugins for ARM. That's something only U-he can do.
I've pointed out before though that 'x86 Pi devices' are out there, like the Atomic Pi: https://dlidirect.com/products/atomic-pi
With one of these you could surly do it.
Although, at that rate, why not a get one of the many varied HTPCs? They sure are small enough.

[lunardigs]

I‘m pretty sure most guitarists need below 10ms of latency for that ‚connected‘ feel. That’s 1/100s. In terms of audio performance, that’s different worlds.

10ms would be the upper limit. I can't record acoustic guitar using headphones (in Bitwig) if the latency is greater than 10 ms or so. Maybe 12ms. If not it becomes a job of compensating to get the rhythm feel and that's no fun, it is not 'playing' music anymore. And never gives good results at the feeling level. This said, I'm an average player, not a super technician.

Yeah, realistic DAW latency is a real killer for tracking guitar while processing & monitored it. I've separated my guitar stuff with other equipment.
If MOD Devices released a rack unit, I'd pay upward of a grand for it, provided it had great I/O (quality I/O, plus flexibility) and kicked ass in general.

[FarleyCZ]

I'll have to defend Urs here. It's nonsense. Untill somebody figures out a usable DAW plugin platform for mobile, it's nonsense. And honestly every touch DAW I tried so far (quite a lot of them) were finicky and hard to control. BandLab was the easiest, but still. There's a philosophocal problem. You can't make full featured (and reasonably quick) DAW controls on a small screen and if you have a big screen at your disposal, you might as well switch that device for x86 based one and be over with it.

Yes, It might be nice to have Zebra as a standalone app for creating patches when I'm bored on the bus, but that's such a novelty, that if I have to decide between VST only Z3 now and a mobile enabled Z3 later, I'll take the first option in a heartbeat.