Serato Sample, any alternatives?

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Caine123
KVRAF
6155 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:51 pm

im thinking again after i demo'ed it some months ago, to get it cause i really loved the workflow but the key recognition was not well afaik. how do you like it and are there better alternatives?

Edit : i meant serato sample not studio
Last edited by Caine123 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
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electro
KVRAF
4573 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Serato Studio, any alternatives?

Post Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:26 pm

I believe its subscription model based so you can't own a license. The benefit is most likely use of the controllers and mixers you are already using.
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Caine123
KVRAF
6155 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Serato Studio, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:34 am

Im sorry i meant serato sample
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elassi
KVRAF
2296 posts since 8 Sep, 2009

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:40 am

IL Slicex has a lot(!) more options and functions. Don't know about the pitch detection though because I never use this feature.

--edited for clarification
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Lotuz2019
KVRist
423 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:01 am

Serato Sample is 50% off at the moment. For this price it's a no brainer if you want easy manipulating your samples (high quality chopping/timestretching/pitchshifting). I bought it for full price and I don't regret it. It makes matching tempo and pitch of various samples so much easier and faster than using a wave editor like Sound Forge.

If only Maschine had realtime timestretching/pitchshifting like this, because not all of Serato Sample's features can be controlled with Maschine's knobs. This means stepping out of the Maschine workflow and using the mouse a lot more than I want. Which DAW do you use?

And remember you pay for what you get, because development seems to have stopped.

Caine123
KVRAF
6155 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:27 am

thx guys i didnt find a sampler like serato with time stretch/pitch function? cannot be that serato is the only one on the market :D
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electro
KVRAF
4573 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:29 am

How do the Serato licenses activation work, CR?
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Lotuz2019
KVRist
423 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:32 am

electro wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:29 am
How do the Serato licenses activation work, CR?
https://support.serato.com/hc/en-us/art ... activation

Caine123
KVRAF
6155 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:59 am

f**k i cannot re-demo.... cause i demo'ed soe tiem ago i need to write support
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electro
KVRAF
4573 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:17 am

Didn't see any offline option for non internet PCs. Certain Serato mixers act like dongles to auto unlock Serato DJ Pro and Serato DVS when USB connected, but every other Serato app like flip and sample seems to use internet based CR.
Lotuz2019 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:32 am
electro wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:29 am
How do the Serato licenses activation work, CR?
https://support.serato.com/hc/en-us/art ... activation
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trusampler
KVRian
940 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:31 am

Too bad they've stopped all development on Serato Sample,it has alot of potential. It hasn't been updated in awhile.
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enCiphered
KVRian
678 posts since 13 Dec, 2016

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:23 am

trusampler wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:31 am
Too bad they've stopped all development on Serato Sample,it has alot of potential. It hasn't been updated in awhile.
Are you sure? I was about to press buy right at the moment

Izak Synthiemental
KVRian
772 posts since 4 Aug, 2010

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:23 am

I used the Serato Studio beta and I really liked the experience. Very straightforward streamlined workflow for music creation that centers around samples. I also have Maschine, which is obviously more comprehensive and feature packed, but can feel less streamlined sometimes when you just quickly want to create something. In Serato Studio everything is on one page and you don't have to open seperate menus to access basic parameters.

The key detection worked for me, great to get sample material from different sources into tune, which is typically a total hassle in other samplers. The realtime pitch-shifting and time-stretching algos sound really superb. You can take a one-shot sample (for example one sampled piano key) and play it chromatically without too obvious artefacts. Of course you shouldn't play it two octaves above it's original key if you want it to remain authentic, but within a reasonable range it sounds perfectly fine, unlike most samplers who attempt to do it.

Unfortunately they only offer it on a subscription basis currently. I eventually got Serato Sample instead in a sale. It does the same thing as Serato Studio, but you have to rely on your DAWs functionality for the Midi sequencing, instead of creating those Midi patterns right in Serato.

I also found that the Simpler in Ableton Live (I use the lite version sometimes) follows a quite similar approach to Serato Sample, minus the key detection (I use Ableton's tuner for that).
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trusampler
KVRian
940 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:47 am

enCiphered wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:23 am
trusampler wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:31 am
Too bad they've stopped all development on Serato Sample,it has alot of potential. It hasn't been updated in awhile.
Are you sure? I was about to press buy right at the moment
Read their forums for a better view, they haven't done anything in terms of development for ages.
https://serato.com/forum/discussion/1693088
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Lotuz2019
KVRist
423 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Re: Serato Sample, any alternatives?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:01 am

enCiphered wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:23 am
trusampler wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:31 am
Too bad they've stopped all development on Serato Sample,it has alot of potential. It hasn't been updated in awhile.
Are you sure? I was about to press buy right at the moment
Just try the demo to see what it can and can't do. Then decide if you want to buy it. The full version works fine, so you're not buying a disfunctional product. It's just that users see that it can become so much better than it already is like trusampler says.

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