ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Finally here!

[LopDog]

Dr. "Future" the future is online not offline. This is a cloud based concept. People do stream their productions since years, upload directly from the DAW to their label FTP, mastering studio or soundcloud. Ever heard of Loopcloud, Splice and Noiiz? Insisting on an offline music computer in 2019 is as absurd as asking for a printed manual. Just saying.
But if you actually live under a stone, I'd better open a support ticket through your account and ask if there is an offline activation option for Nexus3.

I disagree with what you're saying. Today in 2019, there are still many places where the Internet connection is very poor or even lacking. All you have to do is move to the countryside, or abroad to find out.

Then, for the examples you give, they are biased. Because you illustrate with tools that focus on the use of samples (.wav). Only the splice's rent-to-own program requires a regular Internet connection. Otherwise for the use of samples that splice, loopcloud , noiiz offers, we can do without a regular connection. once a sample is downloaded, there is no reason to be connected to use it. then you assume that plugins that requires a permanent and or regular connection is the new standard. While it is quite the opposite, it is totally marginal. At the top, there are only mixedinkey plugins, and plugins based on ilok icloud (but here there are alternatives).

[steve.lindqvist]

Dr. "Future" the future is online not offline. This is a cloud based concept. People do stream their productions since years, upload directly from the DAW to their label FTP, mastering studio or soundcloud. Ever heard of Loopcloud, Splice and Noiiz? Insisting on an offline music computer in 2019 is as absurd as asking for a printed manual. Just saying.
But if you actually live under a stone, I'd better open a support ticket through your account and ask if there is an offline activation option for Nexus3.

I disagree with what you're saying. Today in 2019, there are still many places where the Internet connection is very poor or even lacking. All you have to do is move to the countryside, or abroad to find out.

Then, for the examples you give, they are biased. Because you illustrate with tools that focus on the use of samples (.wav). Only the splice's rent-to-own program requires a regular Internet connection. Otherwise for the use of samples that splice, loopcloud , noiiz offers, we can do without a regular connection. once a sample is downloaded, there is no reason to be connected to use it. then you assume that plugins that requires a permanent and or regular connection is the new standard. While it is quite the opposite, it is totally marginal. At the top, there are only mixedinkey plugins, and plugins based on ilok icloud (but here there are alternatives).

A bad internet connection is not the problem, most cloud systems are only about sporadic checkups, especially copy protection systems. But I certainly don't count someone "lacking" an Internet connection among the target customer group of a software in this price range, not with the best will in the world. Of course I interpreted too much here, because Dr.Past 's question could and probably is only about permanent vs. temporary internet connection.
Nevertheless, reading such posts I just get the feeling of the average 40+ German, with a not so up to date Cubase version and two old monitors (that's a given!) producing strange 80s synth pop with light Italo disco influences, complaining about YouTube kids and missing printed manuals. No personal offense, just assuming for fun here.
But the direction is predetermined, whether it's the Roland Cloud or Output's Arcade - our DAWs will be more interconnected and more directly connected to content. And the concept of Loopcloud, Noiiz or Splice especially is to be able to download the missing piece immediately at the moment of your production. Real time and workflow are the keywords here.
Spotify, YouTube, Netflix? It's 2019 guys, come on.

[steve.lindqvist]

What timezone is the release set for?!?

Unfortunately reFX lives on the west coast of Canada and has a UTC/GMT of -8 hours (cp. LA).
Assuming the download or release takes place on November 29th at 00:00, you will have to convert it according to your place of residence:

London UTC/GMT no offset (November 29, 08:00 am)
Berlin UTC/GMT +1 (November 29, 09:00 am)
Tokyo UTC/GMT +9 (November 29, 07:00 pm)
New York UTC/GMT -5 hours (November 29, 03:00 am)
Los Angeles UTC/GMT -8 hours (November 29, 00:00 am)

But who knows, maybe they start releasing during their regular office times. And Canadians probably don't start working until 10:00 am.

[mike_the_ranger]

I don't let any software phone home for checks or to track my activities and our studio is completely offline, so being able to use it offline is mandatory for me too. Activating via another pc is okay. So simple keyfiles or elicenser like it was, will do it for me.

[Dr.Future]

A simple „yes“ or „no“ would help. Love N2, would like to update, but need to know this.

[steve.lindqvist]

A simple „yes“ or „no“ would help. Love N2, would like to update, but need to know this.

If you already own Nexus2 just open a support ticket via your account. Always ask the source directly, that's the quickest way. The support team has already answered questions about other Nexus3 topics via support tickets.

[steve.lindqvist]

I don't let any software phone home for checks or to track my activities and our studio is completely offline, so being able to use it offline is mandatory for me too. Activating via another pc is okay. So simple keyfiles or elicenser like it was, will do it for me.

I have to admit, that's a concept that irritates me. I'm actually just constantly uploading and downloading files from various labels and customers. Whether these are stems, remix files, vocal lines, different mixes, master files or full videos for scoring. Doing all this all the time on a different computer just feels counterproductive and outdated to me. It reminds me of the times when you had to sent hard disks or DAT tapes by mail...
Well, the fields of application in our industry are manifold. Either way, that's also why I was and still am a big fan of iLok and the USB-eLicenser. Plug it in, done. Start working.
As Nexus did not even offer a software-based eLicenser solution, it could be that old customers (used to the hardware dongle concept) are taken into account and that there is still an offline activation solution. Dr.Past should open a ticket and tell us what's going on.

[mladi]

I don't like to be online when i'm producing. It is like a distraction all the time. I want to focus on the music and creating process and need the feeling of being completely focused and self contained.

[LopDog]

A bad internet connection is not the problem, most cloud systems are only about sporadic checkups, especially copy protection systems. But I certainly don't count someone "lacking" an Internet connection among the target customer group of a software in this price range, not with the best will in the world. Of course I interpreted too much here, because Dr.Past 's question could and probably is only about permanent vs. temporary internet connection.
Nevertheless, reading such posts I just get the feeling of the average 40+ German, with a not so up to date Cubase version and two old monitors (that's a given!) producing strange 80s synth pop with light Italo disco influences, complaining about YouTube kids and missing printed manuals. No personal offense, just assuming for fun here.
But the direction is predetermined, whether it's the Roland Cloud or Output's Arcade - our DAWs will be more interconnected and more directly connected to content. And the concept of Loopcloud, Noiiz or Splice especially is to be able to download the missing piece immediately at the moment of your production. Real time and workflow are the keywords here.
Spotify, YouTube, Netflix? It's 2019 guys, come on.

Okay, so you're saying that a musician or dj constantly on the go is not in the target customer group?

Everyone has a different workflow and you can't constrain an online connection, if it's not justified. There is nothing more frustrating than not being able to open a project, because you are not connected...
You quote Spotify, Youtube, Netflix, they are streaming services so it's justified. In addition, each of these services offers an offline option...

[steve.lindqvist]

A bad internet connection is not the problem, most cloud systems are only about sporadic checkups, especially copy protection systems. But I certainly don't count someone "lacking" an Internet connection among the target customer group of a software in this price range, not with the best will in the world. Of course I interpreted too much here, because Dr.Past 's question could and probably is only about permanent vs. temporary internet connection.
Nevertheless, reading such posts I just get the feeling of the average 40+ German, with a not so up to date Cubase version and two old monitors (that's a given!) producing strange 80s synth pop with light Italo disco influences, complaining about YouTube kids and missing printed manuals. No personal offense, just assuming for fun here.
But the direction is predetermined, whether it's the Roland Cloud or Output's Arcade - our DAWs will be more interconnected and more directly connected to content. And the concept of Loopcloud, Noiiz or Splice especially is to be able to download the missing piece immediately at the moment of your production. Real time and workflow are the keywords here.
Spotify, YouTube, Netflix? It's 2019 guys, come on.

Okay, so you're saying that a musician or dj constantly on the go is not in the target customer group?

With a hardware dongle? So far, yes.
But every DJ on the go is even more online to get connected to its audience, fanbase and family members than the average studio rat, at least in my experience. Usually there's not much to do between airport, transportation, lobby, hotel room and VIP area. Being online with your travel laptop from time to time is more common than unusual. So I would say that the cloud concept is even more appealing to the traveling producer than the hardware dongle has ever been. But what do I know...

[samsam]

Well, you talk as if you're a jobbing pro, so if that's the case I guess you know a fair bit more than a simple bedroom hobbyist. That's your point, no?

[trusampler]

I think what he's saying is to open a ticket? Refx can answer any questions you may have.

Less then 24 hours now and we should all be in the know.

[GMusic]

Finally a proper preset browser. This is the feature I'm looking forward to the most.

[chk071]

Less then 24 hours now and we should all be in the know.

Or rather... the handful of people who want to know that.

[simmo75]

Releasing it on Black Friday... so will there be a bargain sale intro price?