But the prospect of having swappable different flavored filter / oscillator models or some crazy modules i can't yet even think of because i've never had a modular, arouses me even more (spiritually
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What are we still lusting for?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Bazille already is an (almost) perfect instrument in it's current form for me.
But the prospect of having swappable different flavored filter / oscillator models or some crazy modules i can't yet even think of because i've never had a modular, arouses me even more (spiritually )
But the prospect of having swappable different flavored filter / oscillator models or some crazy modules i can't yet even think of because i've never had a modular, arouses me even more (spiritually
)The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
Well berlin modular isnt happening, but in the sense of modular with swapable modules we have plenty:FapFilter wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:08 am Bazille already is an (almost) perfect instrument in it's current form for me.
But the prospect of having swappable different flavored filter / oscillator models or some crazy modules i can't yet even think of because i've never had a modular, arouses me even more (spiritually
U-He Diva (can say its modular,swapable oscilllators, filters, envelopes)
Massive X
Reaktor 6
Zebra 2/HZ
Hive 2 has became quite modular
Xfer Serum (it has gazilion of filter modules)
Dune 3 (gazilion of filters, 2 swapable envelopes, 3 swapable oscillators, 4 msegs that can be swaped to use instead of envelopes.)
Synhtmaster 2
VPS Avenger and so on...
Bazille is modualar almost in the same sense as more complex modular synths where you can route any module to any module. I just see people call modulars synths that has some sort of cable routing. But look, Serum, Massive has drag and drop, so the same way you drag and drop a cable, its just not a cable, its imaginary cable that ends up later on in the mod matrix.
Really
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
out of these, Zebra seems the most promising in these regards though i never really liked the interface, nor got too warm about it's basic tone... has been ages when i tried it though, so i haven't tried it with the DIVA filter expansion.
Zebra 3 is actually on my radar, but i have yet to see first if i'm getting warmer with it than with Z2.
And to be honest, the prospect of something like a more expandable and even more modulatable Bazille simply turns me much more on, but maybe i'm just weird.
Diva sounds really nice, but it's modulation capabilities are quite limited compared to Bazille. Even in Bazille i wish i could modulate the envelope ADSR curve parameters and include the effects section into the modulation chain.
Diva is also pretty restricting in the way, that the selected oscillator type only allows the number of oscillators the respective modeled synth originally had etc, along with other idiosyncrasies you can never get rid of or change out.
I have Reaktor mainly for sample mangling stuff but actually don't use it that much anymore. Haven't tinkered that much with the Blocks, but i found them not that intuitive to target specific parameters compared to simply dragging a cable from anywhere to everywhere.
Blocks are also monophonic only as far as i remember.
Icarus as a wavetable synth is good enough for me, Massive X would be redundant because wavetable is actually not my most favourite form of synthesis and in Icarus you can at least make your own sounds from scratch, even though you can do tons of stuff with FM etc in MX.
I haven't even looked into it any furher because i simply don't need another wavetable synth.
A wavetable module inside a “Berlin Modular“ would of course be ok with me, if that made any sense... after all... is “Berlin Music“ actually associated with cutting edge wavetable sounds?
I simply find it funny that you're seemingly trying to convince me that what i'm looking/lusting for is actually long available. I personally don't see most those listed as comparable alternatives - like at all.
Maybe there actually is in something like VCV Rack or the Softube Modular. Softube is ilok or something similar, so none existing for me and VCV Rack didn't work properly when i once tried to try it - which might of course have been user error
Still waiting for my “Berlin Modular“, with the (slight?) possibility that i might end up disappointed when/if it finally surfaces.
Zebra 3 is actually on my radar, but i have yet to see first if i'm getting warmer with it than with Z2.
And to be honest, the prospect of something like a more expandable and even more modulatable Bazille simply turns me much more on, but maybe i'm just weird.
Diva sounds really nice, but it's modulation capabilities are quite limited compared to Bazille. Even in Bazille i wish i could modulate the envelope ADSR curve parameters and include the effects section into the modulation chain.
Diva is also pretty restricting in the way, that the selected oscillator type only allows the number of oscillators the respective modeled synth originally had etc, along with other idiosyncrasies you can never get rid of or change out.
I have Reaktor mainly for sample mangling stuff but actually don't use it that much anymore. Haven't tinkered that much with the Blocks, but i found them not that intuitive to target specific parameters compared to simply dragging a cable from anywhere to everywhere.
Blocks are also monophonic only as far as i remember.
Icarus as a wavetable synth is good enough for me, Massive X would be redundant because wavetable is actually not my most favourite form of synthesis and in Icarus you can at least make your own sounds from scratch, even though you can do tons of stuff with FM etc in MX.
I haven't even looked into it any furher because i simply don't need another wavetable synth.
A wavetable module inside a “Berlin Modular“ would of course be ok with me, if that made any sense... after all... is “Berlin Music“ actually associated with cutting edge wavetable sounds?
I simply find it funny that you're seemingly trying to convince me that what i'm looking/lusting for is actually long available. I personally don't see most those listed as comparable alternatives - like at all.
Maybe there actually is in something like VCV Rack or the Softube Modular. Softube is ilok or something similar, so none existing for me and VCV Rack didn't work properly when i once tried to try it - which might of course have been user error
Still waiting for my “Berlin Modular“, with the (slight?) possibility that i might end up disappointed when/if it finally surfaces.
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 8826 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Nobody can get Vurts humor within 148 posts, look at his numbers and he didn't even celebrate his 54000th in my specialized thread for celebrating number of posts... He's just too fa(s)t...
I'd translate skelfmeat with meat so hard that you'd need to split it with an axe. Though usually only germans write those combinations into a single word...
I'd translate skelfmeat with meat so hard that you'd need to split it with an axe. Though usually only germans write those combinations into a single word...
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- addled muppet weed
- 105791 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i think hes a bot.Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:44 pm Nobody can get Vurts humor within 148 posts, look at his numbers and he didn't even celebrate his 54000th in my specialized thread for celebrating number of posts... He's just too fa(s)t...
I'd translate skelfmeat with meat so hard that you'd need to split it with an axe. Though usually only germans write those combinations into a single word...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
HeywirDeutschenschreibennichtalleszusammen! 
Thank's for the explanation though, now i can sleep well again.
to make things worse: i've been lurking here since 2005 or so
Thank's for the explanation though, now i can sleep well again.
to make things worse: i've been lurking here since 2005 or so
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 8826 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
So next year you can celebrate 15 years lurking and 5 years signed up...
And not to forget what I am lusting for: Touché Expressive E...
I am the controller freak, controllers is all the hardware I am lusting for...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
on the first glimpse i thought this is going to be another form of newfangled skelfmeat, never heard of that before...Touché Expressive E...
Will look it up, first google results look - not so much of the ordinary
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- addled muppet weed
- 105791 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
Not lusting for anything in particular at the moment. I have everything I need for now.
My solo projects:
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Yup, unless that mysterious Berlin Modular meets (or even exceeds) my expectations, i think i don't need anything else.
Even if plugins continue to improve even more... what i have sure sounds - and is - more than good enough for me.
Ok, forgot to mention that i'm going to buy a new laptop when Reaper 6 arrives that will stay unmodified after initial setup and only receive bugfixes and free updates. My current one from 2010 isn't up for the task. But i'm not lusting for the new one - it's just going to be the thing that'll settle the deal for me.
Even if plugins continue to improve even more... what i have sure sounds - and is - more than good enough for me.
Ok, forgot to mention that i'm going to buy a new laptop when Reaper 6 arrives that will stay unmodified after initial setup and only receive bugfixes and free updates. My current one from 2010 isn't up for the task. But i'm not lusting for the new one - it's just going to be the thing that'll settle the deal for me.
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- addled muppet weed
- 105791 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
explains why im eating so much f**king houmousdonkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:36 amcodec_spurt wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:50 amdonkey tugger wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:33 pmMe and him originate from probably about 10 miles apart at most, and I have no f**king clue.
Awww Dude...
The War of the Roses man...
It's so last century like...
Duuudes, just get over it yah!
We're actually both Lancastrians, though I've lived well over half my life in these 'ere badlands over t'border, whilst m'laddo there has defected to posh Cheshire...
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
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+100Shiek927 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:17 am I simply love the 90s/2000's sound and synths from that era have such a great character, which makes it all the more shame that there's hardly any desire to make authentic plugins from that era. It feels like every developer instead is more focused on making cleaner and cleaner wavetable synths when I'm not the biggest fan of either wavetables or cleanliness: it's character that I want from my synth plugins.
I'm not lusing for any existing plugins, my dream softsynth would be something combining the best sounding parts and the most interesting fetaures of Virus TI, Massive X, Rapid, Repro and Diva but since I own all the above nothing stops me from combining them myself.
I have serious GAS for Berhinger K-2 but I'm not sure adding yet another hardware synth is what I actually need to be more productive (I already have two but my workflow is still mostly software-centered).
I'm saving up for a pair of better monitors and Sonarworks Reference 4 but it's hardly what I'm lusing for, more a necessity.
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