Roland Cloud

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Hemmick Reef
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1500 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:09 am

I recently took up the Roland cloud demo offer and downloaded a bunch of their classic synths.

I'm seriously tempted but...

I must firstly say that the sound quality is top notch. The Roland Jupiter 8 (which it should do) does have an edge over the Arturia Jupiter 8V. Although in a mix I couldn't really hear a big difference with a similar type of sound when testing. I have had the SH-2 plugout for a while now and the Jupiter 8 and Juno sound just as authentic. It's the interface and also price (just about acceptable) that lets it down for me. I have other synths that do the job well enough so paying for a cloud account wouldn't be worth it for me. Think Arturia and Tal. But I would prefer some larger GUI options + please please Roland can you build a better integrated patch browser... but still that sound... :phones: :tu:

steve.lindqvist
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228 posts since 20 Jan, 2019

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:00 am

Hemmick Reef wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:09 am
I would prefer some larger GUI options
Did you try the scaling function in the options menu of each synth? You can make the GUI pretty large.

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Hemmick Reef
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1500 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:38 am

steve.lindqvist wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:00 am
Hemmick Reef wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:09 am
I would prefer some larger GUI options
Did you try the scaling function in the options menu of each synth? You can make the GUI pretty large.
Yes I do, as I like to go large as possible when spending time editing a synth.
But I forgot to add the larger GUI's are out of focus which I don't like so use a medium GUI.
I'm not sure why they can't keep it in focus on scaling?

JJ_Jettflow
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876 posts since 23 Jan, 2011

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:30 am

Hemmick Reef wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:38 am
steve.lindqvist wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:00 am
Hemmick Reef wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:09 am
I would prefer some larger GUI options
Did you try the scaling function in the options menu of each synth? You can make the GUI pretty large.
Yes I do, as I like to go large as possible when spending time editing a synth.
But I forgot to add the larger GUI's are out of focus which I don't like so use a medium GUI.
I'm not sure why they can't keep it in focus on scaling?
No problem here with the focus on scaling. But then again, I am more concerned with the sound made than having something pretty to look at.

As for not being able to tell in a mix, I most certainly could. I found the Arturia plugs to very brittle when mixed with the RC stuff and it took a lot more work to get them to sound good.

JJ_Jettflow
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876 posts since 23 Jan, 2011

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:32 am

JJ_Jettflow wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:30 am
Hemmick Reef wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:38 am
steve.lindqvist wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:00 am
Hemmick Reef wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:09 am
I would prefer some larger GUI options
Did you try the scaling function in the options menu of each synth? You can make the GUI pretty large.
Yes I do, as I like to go large as possible when spending time editing a synth.
But I forgot to add the larger GUI's are out of focus which I don't like so use a medium GUI.
I'm not sure why they can't keep it in focus on scaling?
No problem here with the focus on scaling. But then again, I am more concerned with the sound made than having something pretty to look at.

As for not being able to tell in a mix, I most certainly could. I found the Arturia plugs to very brittle and harsh when mixed with the RC stuff and it took a lot more work to get them to sound good.

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Hemmick Reef
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1500 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:34 am

I spent some time comparing Roland and Arturia J8's. When playing, the Roland has a more cutting vibrant sound more like I imagine the hardware. The Arturia can get there but takes more work and even some eq.

electro
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4573 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:57 am

Which cloud synths can be run on the System 8?
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Funkybot's Evil Twin
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6865 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:23 pm

electro wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:57 am
Which cloud synths can be run on the System 8?
Sorry for the late reply. Any of the "Plug-Out" virtual analog synths can run on the System-8. So the System-100, System-1 System-8, Juno, Jupiter, JX-3P, SH-101, Pro-Mars, and SH-2. Not sure about the TB-3 but I'm thinking that one is a no. Remember, you can load 3 Plug-Outs at a time to the System-8 so it's not like you can have them all at once.

Funkybot's Evil Twin
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6865 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:24 pm

Also, the XV-5080 is out now as a new instrument.

SLiC
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:54 pm

Just more of the same....
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Funkybot's Evil Twin
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:04 pm

SLiC wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:54 pm
Just more of the same....
Yeah, but I mean...that's sort of been Roland's MO with these types of products even in the hardware world right? Repackage the same synth with small differences and sell it again as a new product? At least the Cloud is doing the same thing faster. :lol:

Caine123
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:15 pm

finally the 5080! ok come on now the JD800!
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sinemotor
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268 posts since 24 Dec, 2015

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:19 pm

XV-5080? That is nice, I'll take it!

Just for information, this one does contain JV-1080 presets too. I just checked it. So it makes the JV plugin useless then...

Funkybot's Evil Twin
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6865 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:27 pm

To the people that love these 1080/5080/880/etc. synths...do your program them from the scratch? They just sound like bad ROMplers to me, with most presets geared towards creating the sounds of real instruments poorly. But I never got on well enough with the interface to want to sit down and program anything from scratch. So what do they do well? Or is it a nostalgia thing where those sounds are so bad they're good. Or were all over a beloved sub-genre of electronic music back in the day?

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EvilDragon
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:29 pm

sinemotor wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:19 pm
Just for information, this one does contain JV-1080 presets too. I just checked it. So it makes the JV plugin useless then...
That has been the case with every SRX plugin to date.

It's really dumb that Roland didn't go the Korg route and just implemented all expansions in one plugin...

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