Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

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VicDiesel
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2807 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:07 pm

I'm having a sort of dirty signal: flute, with wind noise and not too many overtones. The Logic pitch shifter really doesn't like it. To my surprise Melda doesn't seem to have one in their catalogue. Other recommendations?

V.

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Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:39 pm

I tested on Loop Loft's Flutes of Fire, "UnderTheCushions", which has a decent amount of chiff noise.

Little Alterboy surprisingly tracked extremely well even though it's meant for voice. I pushed it up 1 octave with formant turned all the way up. Kilohearts' Pitch Shifter worked best with a smaller grain size, around 30ms, with correlation on. Eventide Quadravox using one voice shifted one octave up sounded best with the Soprano Sax instrument profile. I had pretty good results with Uhbik-G, semitones set to 12, I put it in PhaseVoc mode, MAX cpu quality, grain reset auto. Auburn Grallion's free edition performed admirably, pitch shifted (on the left) one octave up. I had "preserve formants" set to 0 and it suffered a bit when increased, but you may have different tastes.

My personal favorite is Quadravox, but all of these were acceptable. But if your recording is more noise than tonal they'll likely struggle as there is less to track and pitch. So try with Grallion first since there's a free edition.

You may also want to pre-process the recording to help pitch shifters. It's hard for me to figure out how exactly to approach that since I don't know what the recording sounds like, but source separation might be an avenue, by separating the noise from the tonal parts so the latter can be pitch-shifted independently.

Neon Breath
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3519 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:33 pm

Zynaptiq Wormhole’s pitch shift sounds pristine and ultra buttery.
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ericzang
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430 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Phoenix, Arizona, USA

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:06 pm

Melda's:
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MHarmonizerMB
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MUnison

with instruments I usually set Keep Formants to 0%.
With MHarmonizer certainly try granular mode and try different grain sizes to hear what works best.

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8845 posts since 16 Dec, 2002

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:07 pm

Neon Breath wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:33 pm
Zynaptiq Wormhole’s pitch shift sounds pristine and ultra buttery.
'pristine and ultra buttery', is this double speak ?

:P

Neon Breath
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3519 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:12 pm

No, synonym speaking!
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VicDiesel
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2807 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:58 am

That Harmonizer works very nicely. Also quite affordable. Thanks so much for the recommendations.

Victor.

Ploki
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1260 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:10 pm

+1 for the uhbik granular, i didn't even expect it to be such a good shifter.

or zplane elastique pitch.

Also, try the Plugins > Apple > AUPitch. it's better than the pitch shifter by default.

or maybe flextime it?
there's also a whammy in the guitar pedal board which can be used as an octaver.

Neon Breath
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3519 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:32 pm

Ploki wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:10 pm
+1 for the uhbik granular, i didn't even expect it to be such a good shifter.
Very true. Often, if not always forgotten.

Amazing granular tool for many purposes actually. The sound is gorgeous too, very rich and hifi.
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Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:44 pm

VicDiesel wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:07 pm
I'm having a sort of dirty signal: flute, with wind noise and not too many overtones. The Logic pitch shifter really doesn't like it. To my surprise Melda doesn't seem to have one in their catalogue. Other recommendations?

V.
Melda harmonizer and Melda unison can do pretty good pitch shifting. For standard octave stuff I’ve been using whamdriver for guitars and such. If you have any fft stuff most do a good job with pitchshifting. I use spec ops for that all the time.

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VicDiesel
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2807 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:06 pm

Ploki wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:10 pm
Also, try the Plugins > Apple > AUPitch. it's better than the pitch shifter by default.
Nice! I didn't know that one was there.

Victor.

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KVRist
49 posts since 31 Mar, 2019

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:20 pm

The pitchshifter from Tonebooster works very well. Similar to Soundtoys Little Alter Boy. Don't know about harmonizer. Never needed one.

Razzia
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364 posts since 21 May, 2016

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:39 am

Vengeance has a plug-in that does this in its fx2 bundle. Sounds good but the buffer and granular effects in that bundle do add kind of an atrocious amount of latency.

That little fx bundle is a really good value though if you have an elicenser

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Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:53 pm

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159 posts since 11 Oct, 2012

Re: Recommendation for a good pitch shifter / octaver?

Post Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:15 pm

+1 for Uhbik-G in general as a creative effect, but for pitch shifting specifically I would go with Zynaptiq Wormhole or Devious Machines Pitch Monster.

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