Arturia Pigments 2 (Free Update): Now it's Granular
- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Some questions concerning the sample playing of the Pigments 2:
1. Can I load and play my own samples?
2. Can I mix /morph samples downloaded to the slots A-F together, and create new sounds?
3. Is there Time machine -type of mode available, like in Kontakt, where you play different sample
pitches without affecting the sample playing speed?
1. Can I load and play my own samples?
2. Can I mix /morph samples downloaded to the slots A-F together, and create new sounds?
3. Is there Time machine -type of mode available, like in Kontakt, where you play different sample
pitches without affecting the sample playing speed?
- KVRAF
- 5878 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
1. Yes.Harry_HH wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:52 am Some questions concerning the sample playing of the Pigments 2:
1. Can I load and play my own samples?
2. Can I mix /morph samples downloaded to the slots A-F together, and create new sounds?
3. Is there Time machine -type of mode available, like in Kontakt, where you play different sample
pitches without affecting the sample playing speed?
2. Yes.
3. Not sure.
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 28 Feb, 2007
Are you sure? Because I can´t get to play more than one soundsource at once?
- KVRAF
- 5878 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
I think that does not seem to possible, but Harry was asking about mixing/morphing, which is possible.boriskarloff wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:32 amAre you sure? Because I can´t get to play more than one soundsource at once?
However, you can use two engines to play two different samples simultaneously. You would know, and not exactly what you want, but just in case.
EDIT: Using granular option might help a bit.
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 28 Feb, 2007
Thanks for answerLoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:40 amI think that does not seem to possible, but Harry was asking about mixing/morphing, which is possible.boriskarloff wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:32 amAre you sure? Because I can´t get to play more than one soundsource at once?
However, you can use two engines to play two different samples simultaneously. You would know, and not exactly what you want, but just in case.
EDIT: Using granular option might help a bit.
- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
I’m confused. How you can mix different samples, in any way, if the Pigment 2 doesn’t allow to play different soundsources A-F at the same time?LoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:40 amI think that does not seem to possible, but Harry was asking about mixing/morphing, which is possible.boriskarloff wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:32 amAre you sure? Because I can´t get to play more than one soundsource at once?
However, you can use two engines to play different samples simultaneously. You would know, and not exactly what you want, but just in case.
In my opinion, if my points 2-3 aren’t possible, the sample player is more or less crippled...
(inside, as Lennon stated).
- KVRAF
- 5878 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
Looks like they need to add one more option of being able to play samples simultaneously in the "Map" section. If that is not super important, there are some pretty good possibilities already.Harry_HH wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:48 amI’m confused. How you can mix different samples, in any way, if the Pigment 2 doesn’t allow to play different soundsources A-F at the same time?LoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:40 amI think that does not seem to possible, but Harry was asking about mixing/morphing, which is possible.boriskarloff wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:32 amAre you sure? Because I can´t get to play more than one soundsource at once?
However, you can use two engines to play different samples simultaneously. You would know, and not exactly what you want, but just in case.
In my opinion, if my points 2-3 aren’t possible, the sample player is more or less crippled...
(inside, as Lennon stated).
For now, dedicating one instance of Pigments 2 for using two engines in sample mode, each playing a different sample in the first slot, might be helpful.
- KVRAF
- 5878 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
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- KVRian
- 521 posts since 19 Jun, 2016
Lovely Update!
the Main OSC new features,FX's and the random mode being now selectable, really wanted that...
Main wish right now for the future, a 3th Oscilator and if possible make some FX destinations (the ones missing) a target, but i'm guessing there were some problems in doing so or they would had done it from Piments one....
the Main OSC new features,FX's and the random mode being now selectable, really wanted that...
Main wish right now for the future, a 3th Oscilator and if possible make some FX destinations (the ones missing) a target, but i'm guessing there were some problems in doing so or they would had done it from Piments one....
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
They've really removed all excuses I had to buy this
Demo until Dec 31 and then 50% off. It's worth it just for the quantized random feature which I can think of multiple uses for already.
Demo until Dec 31 and then 50% off. It's worth it just for the quantized random feature which I can think of multiple uses for already.
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"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
True, but from a sound perspective even, "thin" is a subjective term. Pigments analog osc compared to Hive quickly, not much of a difference, both pretty fat sounding. Hive is a few DB louder, you have to turn the track with Pigments on it up a bit.
A lot of the bass patches in Pigments aren't that good, you can get good bass from it though, but more than that looking at the modulation I'm more inclined to use it for pads and evolving sounds. Just like I'm more inclined to use Diva for bass. U-He spent a ton of time on the oscillator sound itself in Diva, it naturally sounds thicker before you do anything to it. Same was true of Massive and I'm sure is of Massive X.
Now that Pigments has granular this whole thin/thick argument is even less important. IMO the basic oscillator sound in Pigments is OK, not at Diva or Massive level, and I wouldn't expect it to be. Then again neither of them can load samples, do granular, etc.
- Banned
- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
thanks. i will try recommendation to make my own present from init using exactly same wave forms and settings to compare the two side by side.machinesworking wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:38 pmTrue, but from a sound perspective even, "thin" is a subjective term. Pigments analog osc compared to Hive quickly, not much of a difference, both pretty fat sounding. Hive is a few DB louder, you have to turn the track with Pigments on it up a bit.
A lot of the bass patches in Pigments aren't that good, you can get good bass from it though, but more than that looking at the modulation I'm more inclined to use it for pads and evolving sounds. Just like I'm more inclined to use Diva for bass. U-He spent a ton of time on the oscillator sound itself in Diva, it naturally sounds thicker before you do anything to it. Same was true of Massive and I'm sure is of Massive X.
Now that Pigments has granular this whole thin/thick argument is even less important. IMO the basic oscillator sound in Pigments is OK, not at Diva or Massive level, and I wouldn't expect it to be. Then again neither of them can load samples, do granular, etc.
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
I tried it a bit but something about it still turns me off. I think a lot of it is actually why people praise this synth. It’s too nice and neat for me, the interface doesn’t inspire me to get up to anything. Same way I like Massive X for the reasons a lot of people don’t like it. Or Korg Wavestation while we’re at it! We need more bad GUI’s.. in 10 years bad GUI design will be the new vintage. People will say it’s more musical and human than those robot assisted VR interfaces.
- KVRian
- 814 posts since 11 Mar, 2010
You know, you may actually not be that off the mark with your predictionlwj wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:09 pm I tried it a bit but something about it still turns me off. I think a lot of it is actually why people praise this synth. It’s too nice and neat for me, the interface doesn’t inspire me to get up to anything. Same way I like Massive X for the reasons a lot of people don’t like it. Or Korg Wavestation while we’re at it! We need more bad GUI’s.. in 10 years bad GUI design will be the new vintage. People will say it’s more musical and human than those robot assisted VR interfaces.