Korg releases Korg Triton VST

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It's working fine in Cubase, just using default bank/prog select on a (Novation) controller. As said, it doesn't change bank until you also send a Prog change after the bank change.

The first 4 banks are factory, the next 4 are blank (E-H) because that's where stuff like the bank F (MOSS ;) ) and G (General MIDI) lived. So it starts changing the EXB's at the equivalent of where Bank I would be, with EXB-01. It will also respect the mode you're in. So selecting COMBI will switch the combi banks, Prog the program banks etc.
Here's what the MIDI events look like.. this switches it to Studio Essentials / Hawaii 5-0 Horns (Combi mode)
Triton_BankChgMidi.jpg
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I purchased and registered Korg Collection Legacy Bundle a couple of years ago and I am interested in upgrading to the Legacy Special Bundle v2 with the Triton vst. However, when I go to my profile and select registered products there isn’t a yellow box with the coupon code to upgrade to v2. Please advise.

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Did you move from korguser.net to id.korg?
rsp
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zvenx wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:23 pm Did you move from korguser.net to id.korg?
rsp
Yes, I moved about a couple of years ago from korguser.net to the new Korg Shop. Could this be the problem?

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PAK wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:00 pm It's working fine in Cubase, just using default bank/prog select on a (Novation) controller. As said, it doesn't change bank until you also send a Prog change after the bank change.

The first 4 banks are factory, the next 4 are blank (E-H) because that's where stuff like the bank F (MOSS ;) ) and G (General MIDI) lived. So it starts changing the EXB's at the equivalent of where Bank I would be, with EXB-01. It will also respect the mode you're in. So selecting COMBI will switch the combi banks, Prog the program banks etc.
Here's what the MIDI events look like.. this switches it to Studio Essentials / Hawaii 5-0 Horns (Combi mode)
Triton_BankChgMidi.jpgI
Yes, that looks the same as to what I do. Except that, over here, if I select Combi, I get Goliath, and if I select Program I get Acoustic Guitar (both from Bank 1). I don't know what else may I do. I am in Windows 7 - could it be the problem?

EDIT: I got it to work, but I only need CC 32 (apparently CC 0 is ignored). And I cannot access the User bank nor the GM banks. Why? Is there any method to also access those?

EDIT 2: I got it to work in a new sequence with Triton instantiated as a Track instrument. But in a an older sequence, where I instantiated Triton as Rack instrument, it doesn't work. This isn't definitely working as it should.
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fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pmI am in Windows 7 - could it be the problem?
No, definitely not that, unless it's a 10.5 issue on Win 7 (I've not went past 9.5 on Windows.. )
fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pmEDIT: I got it to work, but I only need CC 32 (apparently CC 0 is ignored). And I cannot access the User bank nor the GM banks. Why? Is there any method to also access those?
Nope. Doesn't seem to be.. (??.. ) It plonks you back to Bank A for those..

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PAK wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:10 pm
fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pmI am in Windows 7 - could it be the problem?
No, definitely not that, unless it's a 10.5 issue on Win 7 (I've not went past 9.5 on Windows.. )
fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pmEDIT: I got it to work, but I only need CC 32 (apparently CC 0 is ignored). And I cannot access the User bank nor the GM banks. Why? Is there any method to also access those?
Nope. Doesn't seem to be.. (??.. ) It plonks you back to Bank A for those..
This thing has a really BAD MIDI IMPLEMENTATION. They need to revise it. It's unbelievable how they launched it this way.
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fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm EDIT 2: I got it to work in a new sequence with Triton instantiated as a Track instrument. But in a an older sequence, where I instantiated Triton as Rack instrument, it doesn't work. This isn't definitely working as it should.
You're right. It doesn't change from Bank A when you use it as a rack instrument in Cubase, but it works as a track instrument. Strange.

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I'm seeing a strange feature where the font used in the menu looks like one of the inkpen types from Encore 5 - Anyone else getting this?

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PAK wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:32 pm
fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:03 pm EDIT 2: I got it to work in a new sequence with Triton instantiated as a Track instrument. But in a an older sequence, where I instantiated Triton as Rack instrument, it doesn't work. This isn't definitely working as it should.
You're right. It doesn't change from Bank A when you use it as a rack instrument in Cubase, but it works as a track instrument. Strange.
And if you instantiate it first as a Rack instrument AND then add it too as a Track instrument, it doesn't work in neither of them. This is driving me NUTS. :borg:

I can't have it instantiated as a rack instrument, I can't have both Track and Rack instruments, and I can't access Banks except the Internal and the Expansions. :x

Unfortunately, I don't find any way to report these problems. :-(
Fernando (FMR)

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fmr wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:41 pmUnfortunately, I don't find any way to report these problems. :-(
They try to get you to go through regional support.

If in doubt try the US one at support@korgusa.com.

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PAK wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:15 pm
VitaminD wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:55 pm So I don't think AppStore is the issue.
Except it is. You're using the app store if you own an iOS device. It's also locked down and, essentially, piracy free. That's not the case with any equivalent on Windows. To get things to work as smoothly (auto-install etc, no user interaction beyond pushing the in-app button to buy) would require a lot of back end work, which may or may not be justified by the present market conditions on Windows.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this. I don't own an ios device as I'm specifically stating I'm using Windows many times already. Korg is using the Apple store because the Apple ios devices are in a largely closed environment. It makes sense to put them on the app store in that situation just as it would be to put korg products in the Google app store for android (if they were offered for Android). Since Android is a similarly closed environment

For Windows, they offer their individual synths on the Korg shop proper. Individually. Thus they could do the same for the Gadgets if they wanted to.

But they could also just put them on the Windows App store too if they just love app stores. If you're not familiar with the Windows App store it functions in much the same way as the Apple App store. I even provided a link in my former response to you to help you understand.

So the issue isn't piracy or locking down. Because they already offer products outside of the Apple App store for Windows products.. actually they aren't in any app store. They're in the digital shop on the Korg website. So I'm afraid we cannot agree with your premise.

Besides, I wasn't here to surmise why they gadgets aren't offered individually. I was simply asking IF they were and then (since now I know they aren't) suggesting one day they offer them individually in some manner.

Hopefully one day they'll offer the gadgets individually for Windows.

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Artmuzz wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:26 pm
zvenx wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:23 pm Did you move from korguser.net to id.korg?
rsp
Yes, I moved about a couple of years ago from korguser.net to the new Korg Shop. Could this be the problem?
If you didn't it could have been a problem.
Rsp
sound sculptist

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VitaminD wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:57 pmthey offer their individual synths on the Korg shop proper. Individually. Thus they could do the same for the Gadgets if they wanted to.
With customer service for two dozen new individual products, installation issues, people confused which ones do what, buying Gadget versions of the full VST version they already own etc.

Not only does the App store make that stuff easier (auto-installation), it can also recognize other purchases so you don't purchase the same thing twice if you own a full version, and it restricts the purchases to being in-app (avoiding confusion with other products on their own site), and things like refunds are Apple's problem when a buyer screws up.

I'm not saying it can't be done on Windows, I'm saying it creates many additional headaches Vs selling one full featured product, so I wouldn't think it likely. It also makes me wonder if you've actually used any of the stuff and appreciate just how cut-down much of it is. Compromises which make sense on smaller mobile devices, but maybe less so on desktop machines..

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PAK wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:31 pm
VitaminD wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:57 pmthey offer their individual synths on the Korg shop proper. Individually. Thus they could do the same for the Gadgets if they wanted to.
With customer service for two dozen new individual products, installation issues, people confused which ones do what, buying Gadget versions of the full VST version they already own etc.

Not only does the App store make that stuff easier (auto-installation), it can also recognize other purchases so you don't purchase the same thing twice if you own a full version, and it restricts the purchases to being in-app (avoiding confusion with other products on their own site), and things like refunds are Apple's problem when a buyer screws up.

I'm not saying it can't be done on Windows, I'm saying it creates many additional headaches Vs selling one full featured product, so I wouldn't think it likely. It also makes me wonder if you've actually used any of the stuff and appreciate just how cut-down much of it is. Compromises which make sense on smaller mobile devices, but maybe less so on desktop machines..
Ok cool.

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