Korg releases Korg Triton VST

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Curious that they made this. Someone at Korg is clearly seeing the money in revisiting old gear... in just not sure how a semi-modern, semi-ROMpler is as appealing for nostalgia like the M1 or Wavestation was. Was Triton really that unique? Does it have KARMA?

Maybe it’s just easier cash than other types of legacy recreations. It’s just a GUI on top of a port of a sample-player and its libraries from custom hardware to desktop computers.

I played one at a store once, and I was impressed with the distortion sounds, but that was back then, today’s distortion opportunities are much wider in both hardware and plugins, and the rest of the sounds didn’t exactly catch my attention.

But here’s a thread of people who seem interested :-)

How does it compare to the Korg M3? I bought the M3m for the KARMA. The most time spent with the machine powered on in my “studio” was probably just starting it to warm it up in an attempt to dry out the defective touch panel... and the time I spent actually replacing the touch panel.

I can’t say the M3’s sounds inspire me at all (nothing in it impressed me like the few distortion sounds I remember liking on a Triton ages ago, but maybe that’s the distortion of recollection and changing tastes over my lifetime). The KARMA is a bitch to work with, especially in terms of working with my DAW due to MIDI loops imposed by the fact that I have the module version of the M3 instead of the keyboard version (I had to connect a stand-alone MIDI controller to it to avoid a MIDI loop, and it’s not controllable via my DAW as a result).

It would be SUPER weird to me if Korg ever released a Legacy Collection type recreation of the M3. It didn’t sell nearly as well as a Triton, as far as I can tell, because they didn’t keep revising it or selling add-ons for it (and they absolutely abandoned development of the FireWire drivers, so I never bought the FireWire EXB card).

The M3 was weirdly positioned alongside their much more expensive and feature-filled, top-of-the-line Kronos. And then they also undercut it shortly after with the cheaper and feature-reduced Krome. I never understood their thinking with all this...

M3 also came out when software studios had become THE thing. Triton didn’t have that same competition, so I imagine end user perception of them is much more affectionate toward the Triton just by default because it had more room to sell units.

:shrug:
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tristan- wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:44 pm
TS-12 wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:00 pm come on guys, were expecting a bit too much from a plugin.
expecting a plugin to load all the pcg files of original Triton.. have you ever seen a software recreation of any analog synth being able to load programs that were meant for hardware.
What's next someone will complain that it can't read Triton SNG files.
This plugin is already a dream come true the way it is.
Respectfully disagree, there are many plugin recreations that load original data. there's no reason not to. from Roland Cloud D50, to Korg's own Wavestation, M1 or Polysix, Dexed, SQ8L, PG8X to name a few.
There's too much custom data for the Triton to want to miss them and have a mere preset player, as great as it would be. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to get this. but it could definitely be improved upon.
Agreed. Many software conversions have had sysex import (and even export). It seems a major lost opportunity to sell to people who have tons of old data and projects from their Tritons (which they might no longer own) who might want to resurrect them in a DAW.
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Jace-BeOS wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:46 pmWas Triton really that unique? Does it have KARMA?
KARMA happened after Triton, so no, it doesn't have it. Triton was pretty huge in hip-hop, dance and electronica. Ask Timbaland how many hits he wrote with it, say.
Jace-BeOS wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:46 pmMaybe it’s just easier cash than other types of legacy recreations. It’s just a GUI on top of a port of a sample-player and its libraries from custom hardware to desktop computers.
Nope, the whole sound engine was replicated. It sounds decidedly different from M1 or Wavestation, filters don't sound the same, effects don't sound the same, etc.
Jace-BeOS wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:46 pmHow does it compare to the Korg M3?
M3 has a cleaner sound to it compared to Triton, and also some more synthesis tricks up its sleeve compared to Triton's engine.

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do you have a specific song example where the Triton was heavily featured, or that has a key sound with the Triton character?
this era in production, just before I started out, is still quite mysterious to me. I've heard all about the viruses and nord leads and such from the period but I haven't seen Triton mentioned as much, I don't have a clue what to expect from the thing.

ed: :o oh, it's those sounds.
Cool beans, yeah.
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people even today sample and buy samples from others of Triton drums kits and patches sample to use them in software. (Including me, untill Korg Triton VSTi now. Even tho I prefer the sound of 01/W and Trinity)
That explains how iconic the Triton is
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acYm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:51 pmdo you have a specific song example where the Triton was heavily featured
Not the best synth example of synth sounds, but..


The "Can't get you out of my head" one is nearly all Triton too..

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It's pretty crazy that if you compare this to something like SampleTank 4, it's half the price, takes a tiny fraction of the disk space (8GB vs 260GB), it's 20 years older, and the sounds absolutely crush SampleTank 4. Weird how old ass tech can sometimes be way better. Some of these Triton sounds are amazing, the keys, strings, brass, and bells stand out for me personally. Tons of usable stuff. Definitely picking this up.

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It's weighs 8gb ? Omg.

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Actually, the recommended specs on the Korg shop say 8GB of disk space, but it only actually takes about 2 and a half GB, it's tiny!

Edit: Actually it might be closer to 1GB, kind of hard to track down. I only see three pcm files in the resource directory, which only take up 245 MB!? Anyway, it's effing tiny for 4,000 plus sounds. Some kind of voodoo magic.
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trackbout wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:56 am It's pretty crazy that if you compare this to something like SampleTank 4, it's half the price, takes a tiny fraction of the disk space (8GB vs 260GB), it's 20 years older, and the sounds absolutely crush SampleTank 4. Weird how old ass tech can sometimes be way better. Some of these Triton sounds are amazing, the keys, strings, brass, and bells stand out for me personally. Tons of usable stuff. Definitely picking this up.
Exactly!

The Korg sound design team is one of the best in the world,
their patches of few Megabytes sound better than many software instruments and libraries with Gigabytes of samples.
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EvilDragon wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:24 pm
JohnPativens wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:19 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:02 pm
JohnPativens wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:52 pmYes. Also, buying the Triton VST alone costs 199$ on sale (249 after sale period).
Too much yet.f
Not too much considering how much it would take you to get the hardware with all the EXB boards...

You can't even get all 9 EXBs for $249.
One could compare the price of the other Legacy Collection modules as well to their hardware counterparts, though they were priced very cheap instead.
IIRC KLC individual plugins weren't always $49...
They werent. KLC1 with the ms20 hardware was $499 at first. Then it dropped. I think i got it on clearance for like $149. I think the plugins were $99 each if I recall, and then not long ago they all became $49 when they switched websites?

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TS-12 wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:00 pm come on guys, were expecting a bit too much from a plugin.
expecting a plugin to load all the pcg files of original Triton.. have you ever seen a software recreation of any analog synth being able to load programs that were meant for hardware.
What's next someone will complain that it can't read Triton SNG files.
This plugin is already a dream come true the way it is.
Actually, Korg already did just that with the Wavestation. I can load old syx back from the late 90s I had for the WS into the software version. So yes, I fully expect to be able to load PCG files.

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TS-12 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:54 am their patches of few Megabytes sound better than many software instruments and libraries with Gigabytes of samples.
In fact, yes, there is such a thing (the disease of the time \ marketing \ can be called whatever).

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This thread title is kind of silly now as Korg is no longer 'teasing a Triton recreation,' they've released one.

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