PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

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machinesworking
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2067 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:46 pm

zvenx wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:57 pm
i too am not a fan of the GUI, but I find it very reminiscent of Absynth so I am going to guess that is indeed the GUI.
rsp
Even the GUI is in progress. Everyone should look at the information given on the websites before jumping to conclusions.

States Prototype under the picture of the GUI. and this on the website.
Plasmonic is currently under development, so features are continuously being added and improved. Please note that we are open to suggestions!

machinesworking
KVRAF
2067 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:56 pm

BONES wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:23 pm
Neon Breath wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:43 pm
This. And especially in this case. I really don't think the video helped Plasmonic. Still curious to hear and try once the official and final product is ready. Until then, I'm neutral.
You cannot possibly know this, it is nothing more than your confirmation bias overruling logic and common sense. This is a video designed to sell people on the product, if it doesn't sound as good as it possibly can, then the people making the product must be idiots.
Might be both going overboard here.
Early demonstrations of the sound are early. Plus, and people all have to take this into account, sound is largely a personal taste thing. I love the sound of Pigments, some people do not. I'm not overly impressed with Massive X, others are. A 2 minute video will not show you the possibilities of a synth, and if Brian is matching at all his flexibility with Absynth, with almost 20 years more experience, then this will be a great synth. We will see, but I'm willing to bite. Loved Absynth, still love some things about it like the envelopes etc.

Whywhy
KVRian
502 posts since 11 Aug, 2018

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:52 pm

@Bones : in 2 days: 50% goal : not so bad :)
And it sounds great for me!
If you wait for big moog bass with a waveguide synthesis engine, this product is not for you. ( 2 osc and a ladder filter could normally be able to deliver big moog bass but I think, it's not the goal of a synth like that). Let's wait for the final release.

AnX
KVRAF
6160 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:12 pm

can the gui animations be turned off?

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fmr
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9162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:03 am

machinesworking wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:46 pm
zvenx wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:57 pm
i too am not a fan of the GUI, but I find it very reminiscent of Absynth so I am going to guess that is indeed the GUI.
rsp
Even the GUI is in progress. Everyone should look at the information given on the websites before jumping to conclusions.

States Prototype under the picture of the GUI. and this on the website.
Plasmonic is currently under development, so features are continuously being added and improved. Please note that we are open to suggestions!
So, here is my suggestion: Please take time to create a proper GUI. I, for once, would never buy/use something looking like this. As some already said - it looks like a spreadsheet, which is as far from an inspiring musical instrument as one can get.
Fernando (FMR)

machinesworking
KVRAF
2067 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:55 am

fmr wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:03 am
So, here is my suggestion: Please take time to create a proper GUI. I, for once, would never buy/use something looking like this. As some already said - it looks like a spreadsheet, which is as far from an inspiring musical instrument as one can get.
Again, to me the biggest issues I have with GUI's have nothing to do with whether it's Skeuomorphic or flat and dull, it's whether the space is wasted, buttons and sliders are various sizes, there are hidden hard to reach functions etc. etc.
It's plain, looks like a Max MSP patch, and again it's probably going to look different than that at launch, considering the word prototype and the strong reaction here.

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fmr
KVRAF
9162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:00 am

machinesworking wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:55 am
It's plain, looks like a Max MSP patch, and again it's probably going to look different than that at launch, considering the word prototype and the strong reaction here.
I don't know which Max/MSP patches you are referring, but even there I'm used to much better looking GUIs. This is like looking at an Excel file :hihi:

And I wouldn't call Max/MSP patches as a paradigm in what concerns GUIs either :scared:

I really hope the final version looks different. Even the first version of Absynth looked much better (as long as I remember).
Fernando (FMR)

Neon Breath
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3562 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:06 pm

Crowd funding/begging never sounded like good news to me. I won't bite until the product is officially finished, polished and delivered.
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machinesworking
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2067 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:25 pm

Neon Breath wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:06 pm
Crowd funding/begging never sounded like good news to me. I won't bite until the product is officially finished, polished and delivered.
Again the crowdfunding part is just Brian being a weirdo. It's a way to presell, that's all. It's being released no matter what. IMO it looks like he abruptly was allowed out of his contract with NI, and he's a programmer not a salesman, one of the reasons he signed up with NI in the first place I bet.

This guy wrote Absynth in 2000. I see no reason to be afraid this won't be a good softsynth. I basically used Zebra 2 and Absynth on all my projects for years and years. I have no doubt that certain people release good products and Brian Clevinger is one of them.

benjamind
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1145 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Ain't tellin' ya...

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:21 pm

This all makes me wonder what happened to Efflam Le Bivic (AKA Mokafix). He's a crazy good programmer, but I remember he had to abandon his projects. I wonder how he is doing today and whether he will be going back to his projects someday?
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gentleclockdivider
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Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:05 pm

Efflam le bivic is doing gui design at native instruments (reaktor blocks etc...)
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gunnar
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185 posts since 29 May, 2001

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dayjob
KVRian
1414 posts since 6 Nov, 2006

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:11 pm

^^^ nice. sounds rich, organic.

experimental.crow
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6165 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:51 pm

dayjob wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:11 pm
^^^ nice. sounds rich, organic.
indeed ...
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Spitfire31
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2920 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden

Re: PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

Post Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:42 pm

The focus seems to be pretty much similar to Absynth – meandering, atmospheric, 'cinematic' (this most over-used label). I think I'm already pretty well covered if i need this kind of stuff – Absynth (!), Padshop 2, Soniccouture's Geosonics and Haunted spaces, etc.
I'll hold my fire until there's a demo.
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