Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

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Googly Smythe
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2757 posts since 12 May, 2011 from Albion

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:38 am

Just got the email. I'm almost completely music-notation-illiterate, but I'm giving it a go.
(3 gb download via Steinbergs downloader. Not sure if you need a dongle.)
https://new.steinberg.net/dorico/se/

edit:
https://new.steinberg.net/dorico/compare-editions/
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mrsugmad
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:55 pm

Can you create quickly a simple lead sheet with Dorico SE? Bars, chords (ie C7 Bbmin) , lyrics...?

enroe
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:51 pm

Only 2 players? And despite that 3 Gigabyte? Mmmhh ... :?: :ud:
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Tj Shredder
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:38 pm

enroe wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:51 pm
Only 2 players? And despite that 3 Gigabyte? Mmmhh ... :?: :ud:
Musescore will be a tough competition...

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Googly Smythe
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:12 am

enroe wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:51 pm
Only 2 players? And despite that 3 Gigabyte? Mmmhh ... :?: :ud:
2.5 of that is the HALion SE library, which you may not need. You can use any other sound source.
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Googly Smythe
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:15 am

enroe wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:51 pm
Only 2 players? And despite that 3 Gigabyte? Mmmhh ... :?: :ud:
I suppose it's more of a demo? Might be useful if you want to learn music notation...
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Tj Shredder
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:57 am

Of course it is, what would you expect from a free version which is that high priced for the full one?

Hadrondrift
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:30 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:38 pm
enroe wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:51 pm
Only 2 players? And despite that 3 Gigabyte? Mmmhh ... :?: :ud:
Musescore will be a tough competition...
With only two players (only two instruments simultaneously), Dorico SE can't really compete with MuseScore, where you can write full orchestral scores. Hard for Steinberg to compete against a very high-quality free software, I guess.

jonljacobi
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1421 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:57 am

Dorico is a very facile program and as with any limited version, they're trying to rope you in. Not everyone has an issue paying for software, though Dorico is pretty pricey.

Hadrondrift
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:52 pm

Yep, really nice, I checked the SE version for some hours. I realized pretty quickly, though, the restrictions were too much of a hindrance for me, and I am not pro enough for shelling out 560,- bucks (Pro Version) for "just" a score editing program. Btw, I use the score editor of Cubase regularly.

kLoSDeyes
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:01 pm

Hi there, my first post on this forum - it’s great to be able to share thoughts in this music lovers community.
For me SE version is rather a free viewer for scores made in paid versions, maybe it’s also a way to "have a taste" of the software. Saying that, I’m Dorico user from version 1, but before I was jumping between Finale, Sibelius, Encore, MuseScore, even Lilypond (and it’s very convenient for some kinds of music/scores) for twenty years. Dorico’s most important advantage over competition is (imho) thinking in terms of music rather then music notation elements. So you give up some of direct layout control but gain flexibility and speed. Dorico is great for standardized notation elements, if you are up to conceiving your own notation systems or doing new music/avant-garde, you would be better off with something else (probably INdesign, ekhem).

harvon
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:22 pm

I spent some time with SE in order to get familiar with dorico. I like the program and I think I would feel comfortable using the full version. Though it's price is much too high of cause, nor does it have rewire.

And the free MuseScore is indeed very good but without rewire, and so I continue looking at alternatives.
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tonedef71
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:35 pm

I recently purchased Sonic Scores Overture during the holiday sale. I have yet to really play with it; it seems similar to Dorico in that it also lets you edit your musical score via a piano roll interface.
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harvon
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:38 am

The Overture looks interessant too, as would any score editor that allows vst plugins, and it's much cheaper than dorico/sibelius/finale.

I don't know if there are DAWs and score editors that are vst plugins; such could be very usefull.

EDIT

I ended my overture trial very quickly. Mousing some notes into score, changing my mind about what the meter should be and cut/paste moving note groups around in score brought the thing in disarray. The play engine didn't play anymore what the score showed but something else. Any normal beta testing should find and remove these kind of bugs.
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fmr
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Re: Dorico SE 3 (Free version)

Post Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:57 am

harvon wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:22 pm
I spent some time with SE in order to get familiar with dorico. I like the program and I think I would feel comfortable using the full version. Though it's price is much too high of cause, nor does it have rewire.

And the free MuseScore is indeed very good but without rewire, and so I continue looking at alternatives.
Finale has ReWire (but it's also expensive)
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