I sometimes find myself wanting to apply fractions/ multiples of a modulator's value to a second parameter. I would imagine that the method to use would be found within the transformation panel, but I'm not positive that that is the most efficient.
What I am imagining is a drop-down menu of sync values to be located near the Invert button that would automatically populate the transformation panel with the appropriate formula or otherwise allow proportional use of a modulator that is already in use.
Thoughts?
Modulator sync values?
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
IN the meantime: right-click the Transformation Shape (TS) graph, select [Expression evaluator], enter your expression (e.g. 0.3+x/3) and adjust the number of points. Then save it as a TS preset.
>>> https://i.imgur.com/oD7LUdE.png
Being able to name those TS presets or add a comment would be handy.
>>> https://i.imgur.com/oD7LUdE.pngBeing able to name those TS presets or add a comment would be handy.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
Peter did an amazing job of demonstrating some of the abilities found within the Expression Evaluator, but the math is beyond me.
I can draw shapes and aim for % but I'm never certain if it is accurate enough...and then I argue with myself about whether or not it needs to be exact and who will know if it isn't! (I could always claim that slight inaccuracies were intentional or due to analog influences.)
I can draw shapes and aim for % but I'm never certain if it is accurate enough...and then I argue with myself about whether or not it needs to be exact and who will know if it isn't! (I could always claim that slight inaccuracies were intentional or due to analog influences.)
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
But only you would know what
Can you post a few examples / descriptions of what curves you want?
is for your desired sounds. As there is an infinite number of transformation shapes any drop-down list would only meet a few specific needs.werzel wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:39 am ... the appropriate formula or otherwise allow proportional use of a modulator that is already in use.
Can you post a few examples / descriptions of what curves you want?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
Standard sync values would be all that would be needed as starting points...
1/2, 1/3,1/4...1 bar, 2, 4, etc. would enable one to apply portions/ multiples of an existing modulator without the need to create another. Think the Sync menu that is available to all LFOs.
1/2, 1/3,1/4...1 bar, 2, 4, etc. would enable one to apply portions/ multiples of an existing modulator without the need to create another. Think the Sync menu that is available to all LFOs.
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- KVRAF
- 2703 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
You want a modulator to be synced to 1/8 for one parameter and then also 1/16 for a different one.
Have I got that right? (obviously, the values here are just for example)
Are we talking per-voice modulators in MSF?
Or the normal global mods?
Have I got that right? (obviously, the values here are just for example)
Are we talking per-voice modulators in MSF?
Or the normal global mods?
Jason @ Melda Production
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Yes, on re-reading, I think that that is what werzel is looking for:
-- one modulator
-- with different frequencies (or sync values) for each target parameter.
So my example above is not relevant (but may be useful in other circumstances).
-- one modulator
-- with different frequencies (or sync values) for each target parameter.
So my example above is not relevant (but may be useful in other circumstances).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
I was thinking about the global mods in particular.
and as DarkStar surmised:
-- one modulator
-- with different frequencies (or sync values) for each target parameter.
and as DarkStar surmised:
-- one modulator
-- with different frequencies (or sync values) for each target parameter.
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
^^^^
I was going to suggest that, but
-- when you change the first modulator you have to remember to change the other one by the equivalent amount.
-- you might run out of Modulators!
But how about this?
-- one Multiparameter controlling the Length of the 2 Modulators,
-- 14 steps,
-- the Value and Max of the second Length are offset by 1 step.
I was going to suggest that, but
-- when you change the first modulator you have to remember to change the other one by the equivalent amount.
-- you might run out of Modulators!
But how about this?
-- one Multiparameter controlling the Length of the 2 Modulators,
-- 14 steps,
-- the Value and Max of the second Length are offset by 1 step.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
Kind of defeats the exploitation of possibilities then.
Changing the direction of the ramp in the transformation panel is = the invert button.
Using Saw shapes in the transformation panel creates multiples of the modulation IF the modulation is also a Saw.
Things get confusing/ interesting when the modulation is NOT a Saw. Perhaps a second Modulator to control the % IS the answer.
Changing the direction of the ramp in the transformation panel is = the invert button.
Using Saw shapes in the transformation panel creates multiples of the modulation IF the modulation is also a Saw.
Things get confusing/ interesting when the modulation is NOT a Saw. Perhaps a second Modulator to control the % IS the answer.