KVR Audio

SampleScience · Post by **SampleScience** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:26 pm

Seeing all the hype this synth generates, I had to double-check if he indeed used SynthEdit v1.1 (release in 2010) instead of the latest version 1.4. If you look at 2:45 in his video, you see the old SE v1.1 modules. Their look changed from v1.2 and up. They look like this now:

in v1.1, they looked like this:

A screengrab from the promo video:

The people expecting a macOS version will be disappointed...

Stryves · Post by **Stryves** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:54 am

SampleScience just went all Sherlock Homie on this.

kbaccki · Post by **kbaccki** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:08 am

CSI: KVR.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:20 am

e-crooner wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:57 pm
Russell Grand wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:40 pm
izonin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:58 pm Hm, I don't understand the argument that SE synths sound bad.
I don't get it either, tbh. There have been many Synthedit synths over the years with oodles of character and incredible sound. Aversion to Synthedit instruments (and effects) has no basis in reality in my experience, at least where sound quality is concerned. Hell, there's some SE-based software that sounds just as good or even better than non-SE commercial software.
Such as?

Memorymoon, ME80 and Messiah, everything by HG Fortune, Majken's Chimera, everything by Krakli, various de la Mancha synths and effects, Fretted Synth Audio's PhasOsc, various KX77FREE synths...

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:01 am

e-crooner wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:57 pm
Russell Grand wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:40 pm There have been many Synthedit synths over the years with oodles of character and incredible sound.
Such as?

layzer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:05 pm
Teksonik wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:07 pm
layzer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:30 pm all the kevin brown synths
Synthmaker not Synthedit.
coke, not pepsi

I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't given the "

". Just thought you'd like to know the subject was SE not SM/Flowstone. Similar environments but responsible for different plugins.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:01 am

The only SE synth i still use is EVM's Bassline v1.3 vsti for its mutebass preset.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 am

Russell Grand wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:20 am
e-crooner wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:57 pm
Russell Grand wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:40 pm
izonin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:58 pm Hm, I don't understand the argument that SE synths sound bad.
I don't get it either, tbh. There have been many Synthedit synths over the years with oodles of character and incredible sound. Aversion to Synthedit instruments (and effects) has no basis in reality in my experience, at least where sound quality is concerned. Hell, there's some SE-based software that sounds just as good or even better than non-SE commercial software.
Such as?
Memorymoon, ME80 and Messiah, everything by HG Fortune, Majken's Chimera, everything by Krakli, various de la Mancha synths and effects, Fretted Synth Audio's PhasOsc, various KX77FREE synths...

Despite the naysayers re: Mac SE plugins, I have had no issues with Memorymoon or ME80, even on Catalina.

SampleScience · Post by **SampleScience** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:00 pm

teilo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 am Despite the naysayers re: Mac SE plugins, I have had no issues with Memorymoon or ME80, even on Catalina.

I could be wrong but I think that Memorymoon and ME80 are reprogrammed in C++ versions of SE synths, it's a service provided by Oli Larkin. He did the same with Phonec which used to be a SE creation. So yeah sure, it works well because it uses Oli's framework called wdl-ol:

https://github.com/olilarkin/wdl-ol

I'm sure Genesis Pro dev's could ask for the same service, it's costly but at least it would be multi-platform and reliable.

whiteaxxxe · Post by **whiteaxxxe** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:09 pm

This SynthEdit bashing is the same stupid swarm-blahblah as that Behringer- or Waves- or whatever-bashing. Every stupid idiots opinion gets blown up to a religion by other idiot-followers. The same as in politics. So... welcome to the third millennium. It has up- and a lot of downsides, like every progression.

Summary: I will buy that synth for 1$ or € or whatever, because I use the free Version since 2008 and never ever have encountered a single problem with it. Only good sound. Period. And I will not read that thread here any further... so, dont answer or quote me.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:59 pm

whiteaxxxe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:09 pm This SynthEdit bashing is the same stupid swarm-blahblah as that Behringer- or Waves- or whatever-bashing. Every stupid idiots opinion gets blown up to a religion by other idiot-followers. The same as in politics. So... welcome to the third millennium. It has up- and a lot of downsides, like every progression.

Summary: I will buy that synth for 1$ or € or whatever, because I use the free Version since 2008 and never ever have encountered a single problem with it. Only good sound. Period. And I will not read that thread here any further... so, dont answer or quote me.

tl;dr

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:18 pm

whiteaxxxe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:09 pm Every stupid idiot gets blow up... so, dont quote me.

Plz.. It's JOB.. Blow job

Stryves · Post by **Stryves** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:19 pm

whiteaxxxe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:09 pm This SynthEdit bashing is the same stupid swarm-blahblah as that Behringer- or Waves- or whatever-bashing. Every stupid idiots opinion gets blown up to a religion by other idiot-followers. The same as in politics. So... welcome to the third millennium. It has up- and a lot of downsides, like every progression.

If we are talking about what version of SE is used then there are limitations to that software which is fact and not opinion.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:53 pm

SampleScience wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:00 pm
teilo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 am Despite the naysayers re: Mac SE plugins, I have had no issues with Memorymoon or ME80, even on Catalina.
I could be wrong but I think that Memorymoon and ME80 are reprogrammed in C++ versions of SE synths, it's a service provided by Oli Larkin. He did the same with Phonec which used to be a SE creation. So yeah sure, it works well because it uses Oli's framework called wdl-ol:

https://github.com/olilarkin/wdl-ol

I'm sure Genesis Pro dev's could ask for the same service, it's costly but at least it would be multi-platform and reliable.

Afaik, the recent versions of the ME80 and Messiah are no longer SE, but programmed by Chris Kerry, just like Phonec is. CK uses his own platform, which, however, reuses some code from all the modules CK used to make, at least that is what I assume.

AlesisVi61 · Post by **AlesisVi61** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:00 pm

A next-generation monster synth for 1 euro? I'll believe it when I see it available for purchase.

SampleScience · Post by **SampleScience** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:25 pm

e-crooner wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:53 pm Afaik, the recent versions of the ME80 and Messiah are no longer SE, but programmed by Chris Kerry, just like Phonec is. CK uses his own platform, which, however, reuses some code from all the modules CK used to make, at least that is what I assume.

Ah thank you, I didn't know it was CK that was behind these projects, for some reason I thought it was Oli Larkin.