MSF Analog Panel
- KVRist
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
No, I guess it's not supposed to do that.
There's still a drift button for each modulation. It adjusts the amount of fluctuation in the modulation itself. (edit: that was a false statement!)
When you turn it up a random pitch drift LFO per note is automatically generated and the envelope timings fluctuate. (edit: Because drift is preset in the per voice modulators and the evelopes)
10% sounds most natural for me.
I would also like to have more detailed settings, because otherwise I would modulate everything manually. It would be nice to have more differentiation:
- per note random
- random LFO (depth + speed) This two parameters are already there
- envelope timing random (Is currently also lifted simultaneously with the Analog button)
edit: Or did I misunderstand you? Is this about the analog panel in the global section?
There's still a drift button for each modulation. It adjusts the amount of fluctuation in the modulation itself. (edit: that was a false statement!)
When you turn it up a random pitch drift LFO per note is automatically generated and the envelope timings fluctuate. (edit: Because drift is preset in the per voice modulators and the evelopes)
10% sounds most natural for me.
I would also like to have more detailed settings, because otherwise I would modulate everything manually. It would be nice to have more differentiation:
- per note random
- random LFO (depth + speed) This two parameters are already there
- envelope timing random (Is currently also lifted simultaneously with the Analog button)
edit: Or did I misunderstand you? Is this about the analog panel in the global section?
Last edited by Faiky on Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
Hah!
I thought that the 'Analog Drift' knobs were a level knob for the Analog Panel.
0% Analog Drift = Analog Panel DISABLED for that particular parameter?
I was asking about adding parameters to what the Analog Panel modulates - and cannot find a mapping for them.
Now I'm not sure what I know!
I thought that the 'Analog Drift' knobs were a level knob for the Analog Panel.
0% Analog Drift = Analog Panel DISABLED for that particular parameter?
I was asking about adding parameters to what the Analog Panel modulates - and cannot find a mapping for them.
Now I'm not sure what I know!
- KVRist
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
So the global analog knob also influences the strength of the drift knobs (all at once).
However, drifting only works if analog is also on and turned up.
If all drift knobs of the modulations are set to 0, there is no drifting in the modulations themselves.
What the Analog knob always affects is pitch drift and envelope times. This is what I found out. What else is behind it, only the developer can say, but it would be nice to see the mapping and to be able to adjust the settings.
By the way, regarding the analog function: great thing Vojtech, thank you!
However, drifting only works if analog is also on and turned up.
If all drift knobs of the modulations are set to 0, there is no drifting in the modulations themselves.
What the Analog knob always affects is pitch drift and envelope times. This is what I found out. What else is behind it, only the developer can say, but it would be nice to see the mapping and to be able to adjust the settings.
By the way, regarding the analog function: great thing Vojtech, thank you!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
It would seem that all per-voice modulate-able parameters can be added to the Analog Panel's modulations via the Analog Drift % knob, thus, no need for a map to know whether it is possible. They are set at 0% by default and need to be activated to have an effect.
Now I just need to find some creative ways to misuse them!
+1
Now I just need to find some creative ways to misuse them!
+1
- KVRAF
- 2703 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
Actually you can turn everything off if you like. Just look at the cents value in an OSC and you can turn the drift to 0%.Faiky wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:16 am
What the Analog knob always affects is pitch drift and envelope times. This is what I found out. What else is behind it, only the developer can say, but it would be nice to see the mapping and to be able to adjust the settings.
By default the analog modulates: cents, init phase, most modulators (env, lfo etc), filters, plus a few more things.
It's a really nice sounding starting point and the user can add more to it by using the drift parameter.
However I have to agree some global level management would be nice. 2 ideas:
1. Map button to show all current assignments.
2. Presets, to quickly reset all to 0% or other things like, only modulate pitch or only modulate LFOs etc. This would make it fast to set up.
Jason @ Melda Production
- KVRist
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Yes, it's only the random LFO speed, simply adjust by feel.werzel wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:17 pm Any idea what the Speed knob is based on? Rate of randomness has me a bit baffled.
Ah, thank you for this detailed info! So the effeckt is predetermined by the already turned up drift knobs, okayjmg8 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:57 am Actually you can turn everything off if you like. Just look at the cents value in an OSC and you can turn the drift to 0%.
By default the analog modulates: cents, init phase, most modulators (env, lfo etc), filters, plus a few more things.
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
You should be back soon, then
There are clues in the posts above.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
The whole point is that you initially don't need to find the parameters
. Just use the global Analog drift and you are done. But if you want to search, then every per-voice modulated parameter has its own knob in the modulation settings.
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1823 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
This is a really cool feature. I'll try to get a video out later today explaining it.
My Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarChandler
