Axiom mix/wet/dry knob?
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 3 Feb, 2020
So I'm a veteran of amp sims, but I can't help but hear (and feel) the dry signal in Axiom. There's a wet dry knob in Late Replies, but I don't see a mix/dry/wet knob in the main GUI to remove the clean/dry signal. It's audible when lowering gain on pre/destructor/post filters and it's clearly the raw/dry signal since it doesn't change much when altering parameters. For instance, crank the distortion on the destructor stage and you'll still hear and feel the plucky midrange of the clean signal. What's the deal? Am I missing a parameter or completely insane? On most presets, I need to drop the tone and mid knobs heavily to mimic the typical response of a high gain amp so a 1:1 of mid/treble on iconic amps seems out of the question. I have no problem following my ears, but I'm battling the chimey clean that appears blended or present in the majority voicings in Axiom.
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Blue Cat Audio Blue Cat Audio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=39981
- KVRAF
- 6345 posts since 8 Sep, 2004 from Paris (France)
There is no dry/wet control here. Are you using the standalone application or a plug-in? Have you verified that there is no other path for the dry signal (you can verify by setting both the in and out gains to their minimum values: if you can still here the dry signal, it is using going thru path).
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 3 Feb, 2020
I've got input monitoring off and there shouldn't be any through signal, but now that you mentioned it, I'll give the standalone a whirl and see if it behaves similarly. Thanks for the prompt response! I'll return with my results.
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Blue Cat Audio Blue Cat Audio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=39981
- KVRAF
- 6345 posts since 8 Sep, 2004 from Paris (France)
Another thing that you may want to check is that the other channel (there are two parallel channels: A and B) is not active and the A/B mix knob is properly set.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 3 Feb, 2020
So, after more experimentation, I've concluded that this is just how destructor (axiom) operates. There is indeed a mix knob in the details page of the destructor module. Adjusting that knob, in conjunction with the drive knob and range knob (under shape dynamics) reveals the amplified dry signal I'm hearing - it doesn't fully disappear into the saturation when cranking the drive and/or mix. Even with the mix knob maxed, it's still too plucky for my ears and doesn't feel like a chewy, saggy, tube stage; more like exactly what it is: a series of filters and dynamics coloring the dry signal. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just not what I expected. Using some Ownhammer IRs has helped a bit.
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Blue Cat Audio Blue Cat Audio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=39981
- KVRAF
- 6345 posts since 8 Sep, 2004 from Paris (France)
That's surprising, as there are only a few presets that use the mix parameter in Destructor (mainly for light crunch tones or special effects - you should just leave it to 100% in most cases).
You can try to reduce the amount of dynamics if you want to make sure transients do not make it thru (that's maybe what you are hearing), but it will reduce the "compression" effect that makes it feel like an amp.
You can try to reduce the amount of dynamics if you want to make sure transients do not make it thru (that's maybe what you are hearing), but it will reduce the "compression" effect that makes it feel like an amp.