Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[Buckster]

Anyone else manage to get the Steinberg website to send them a trial key via email for Halion 6 - tried everything and nope

[kidslow]

Does anyone know when the McDSP coupon code will expire? Is it a Valentine's weekend deal or longer ... Need to demo Futzbox in a complicated multi-DAW setup for a film and might take a week or two to fully evaluate.

[escalona]

Does anyone know when the McDSP coupon code will expire? Is it a Valentine's weekend deal or longer ... Need to demo Futzbox in a complicated multi-DAW setup for a film and might take a week or two to fully evaluate.

it ends on 2/17/2020 (as advertised on email)

[Ou_Tis]

Halion 6 is great at full price, so 1/2 price is definitely a deal.

2019 BF deal was Absolute 4 half price ($250) which includes Halion, the Grand, Padshop 2, Groove Agent and a pile of libraries. If you're not in a hurry, waiting for Absolute on sale is the way to go.

I'm happy getting Halion, but with already having Kontakt and many 3rd party libraries, using Halion presets didn't make it a game changer for me.

If I'm reading this review correctly, the only Groove Agent Expansion libraries in Absolute 4 are Prime Cuts and Rock Essentials:

https://www.samplelibraryreview.com/the ... steinberg/

Hmm. A lot of the other stuff in that is either already included in Halion 6 or has gotten lackluster reviews. The sounds in Prime Cuts are nice but I found few patterns I'd want to use without heavy editing.

Already have Padshop 2 through Cubase (and Retrologue, which isn't that great).

[Uncle E]

The original Groove Agent was lackluster but still really great for creating fills and a sense of liveliness, with subtle changes happening automatically or with automation. I used to mute the kick, snare, and anything else important, and just used it to fill in space over the drum parts I programmed myself.

[Kevin63101]

It depends what Steinberg tools you need. My point was Absolute 4 gives you Halion, Groove agent and a bunch more. But who knows when it will be on sale again.

BTW if you already have padshop, the expansions are very worthwhile IMO.

[Ou_Tis]

It depends what Steinberg tools you need. My point was Absolute 4 gives you Halion, Groove agent and a bunch more. But who knows when it will be on sale again.

BTW if you already have padshop, the expansions are very worthwhile IMO.

I see there are a few more included libraries not listed in that review: Granular Guitars (Padshop expansion), Triebwerk, Trium, Hypnotic Dance, Haliotron, Olympus Choir Micro. Apparently that's all though.

https://new.steinberg.net/absolute/

[OneOfManyPauls]

Up to 67% off IK Multimedia MODO Bass, MODO Drum, and Crossgrade, starting at $99:
https://www.jrrshop.com/computer-softwa ... ate&sale=1

I'm in the UK and getting "This product is not available in your country." on the $99 modo drum crossgrade - is this really geographically limited? I'm getting a crossgrade offer elsewhere (inc IKM) but for a higher price.

[telecode]

Hi, sorry for the n00b question. If one already has Padshop Pro 2 and RetroLogue (I have been able to make all sorts of custom sounds with them), what does having Halion 6 full give you that complements the previous two?

[ChamomileShark]

HALion 6 has full sampling and synthesis functions. "Sample, Grain (granular synthesis) and Organ (tonewheel emulation) Zones with a remarkably capable wavetable and resynthesis engine. " About the only thing it doesn't do is FM.

Then it also has a bunch of multisamples in the same way there is the Kontakt Factory Library (although I think it's alot smaller).

[telecode]

HALion 6 has full sampling and synthesis functions. "Sample, Grain (granular synthesis) and Organ (tonewheel emulation) Zones with a remarkably capable wavetable and resynthesis engine. " About the only thing it doesn't do is FM.

Then it also has a bunch of multisamples in the same way there is the Kontakt Factory Library (although I think it's alot smaller).

Thanks. Once again, sorry, dumb n00b question time.

I can load my own wave samples into Padshop and manipulate them and add effects. I am also able to do the same thing in NI Maschine. I do have NI Kontact 6 that comes with Komplete but I haven't really played around with it in depth -- I mostly use the instruments it comes with. What would Halion 6 give me that I don't already have?


updated.

nm: I just read up on them. it looks like its a competitor to Falcon and Kontact but *maybe* much more resource intensive. I will need to demo it. I seriously doubt I will ever be scripting my own Halion instruments.

https://ask.audio/articles/choosing-the ... r-shootout

[ChamomileShark]

If it helps any, I use Kontakt to play back commercial libraries.

I use Falcon mainly for the synthesis and treatment of samples

I use HALion mainly for creating the samples in the first place. It has an autosampler so I sample some of the hardware synths that don't have presets. I do sometimes do granular and wavetables from those samples.

[telecode]

If it helps any, I use Kontakt to play back commercial libraries.

I use Falcon mainly for the synthesis and treatment of samples

I use HALion mainly for creating the samples in the first place. It has an autosampler so I sample some of the hardware synths that don't have presets. I do sometimes do granular and wavetables from those samples.

Thanks. That helps a lot in my understanding why one would need more than one of those products.

update.

just comparing cost of ownership based on that ask audio article. so is the below correct if one were to compare Halion to UVI Falcon ecosystem to get a rough cost of ownership of each product? The below is based on US prices (without discount) and I am comparing cost of UVI expansion instruments to Halion Olympus choir expansion)

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	                      UVI Falcon	    Halion 6
main app	                 $350	             $350
expansion instrument	          $40	               $100
total	                        $390	               $450

[WatchTheGuitar]

I don't know anything about Halion or its expansions, but the Falcon expansions aren't major - a lot of tweaked presets really with some samples and wavetables in certain ones. You may be better off comparing with the sort of expansions you can host in Falcon like the various UVI suites that come with several gigabytes of sample library.

[Vortifex]

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