Reaper and Bitwig.

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Acid Mitch
KVRAF
2017 posts since 5 Oct, 2005

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:46 am

Spring Goose wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:39 am




I thought the automatable parameters of a VST instrument or effect only has a resolution of 128. I just want to be able to enter an exact number 0 or 1 to 128.
Some parameters have more steps than that, some less and some exactly that amount. It depends on the synth and parameter. 128 steps is common because it’s easy to map to midi cc’s.

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:14 am

Acid Mitch wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:46 am
Spring Goose wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:39 am




I thought the automatable parameters of a VST instrument or effect only has a resolution of 128. I just want to be able to enter an exact number 0 or 1 to 128.
Some parameters have more steps than that, some less and some exactly that amount. It depends on the synth and parameter. 128 steps is common because it’s easy to map to midi cc’s.
thanks

EnGee
KVRAF
5947 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:31 pm

What do you mean by a "programmer"? Sound Designer or Software Developer?

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:06 pm

people who program in code/writing

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:52 pm

Yeah a software developer, although i'm not sure i'd call a hobbyist a "software developer".

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:01 pm

xbitz wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:40 am
^^^ yepp, just it's not just a plugin but whole DAW, if you like modulation and modular things then Bitwig + Reason Rack Plugin can be a good choice if u want change DAW and keep your existing materials in the same time
I only use The Echo. I used to use Reason synths but I stopped when I bought other synths (which I like better).
I thought for the £229 to upgrade to Reason 11 (suite), well I could buy both Blue Cat Late Replies and Audio Thing Outer Space. I already have Replika XT. TBH I haven't used The Echo much recently, but it is one the things I like on Reason Rack.

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:06 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:44 am
Bitwig and Reaper are aimed at musicians, not computer programmers.
They both have demos you can try for yourself.

I can’t think of any daws aimed at computer programmers.
Reaktor
Max 4 Live
Synth Edit
I thought could I add "Bitwig's The Grid" onto this list?

I just wanted to talk about it before trying demos. I'm only interested at the moment. As I explained I have only a vague interest in changing DAWs. I wouldn't change DAWs in the next 6 months I think.

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:10 pm

I might like modular. I dunno yet, i'm still getting my head around sound design tbh. I have quite enough synths, and I've barely scratched the surface yet I think.

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:14 pm

Also I've joined this community (KVR) where a lot of people are using these softwares: Reaper and Bitwig. I had a quick look at it, but then I felt overwhelmed by it. I'm just asking, i'm just taking an interest in Reaper and Bitwig and the people who use it.

Spring Goose
KVRist
306 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:20 pm

Furthermore is it the same people who have a very deep understanding of DSP also can understand computer programming? (they have such an intellect).
Or am I mistaken?

BTW I was kinda absent from making computer music and reading about it between 2009 to 2018. I'm playing catch up. Am I right these Reaper and Bitwig didn't even exist in 2008?

jonljacobi
KVRian
1425 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:40 pm

Reaper may have been, Bitwig is about 5 years in release.

EnGee
KVRAF
5947 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:05 pm

Spring Goose wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:06 pm
people who program in code/writing
Well, there are different kinds of those programmers.
Those who write in C/C++, Delphi... etc with deep knowledge of DSP. And there are others who write utilities with script languages such as in Bitwig and Reaper.
There are also coders who write music on code like CSound, have you searched that? There are others similar software.

In the 80's they used to call the sound designer a programmer as well.

Reaktor even though you don't write a code but it nevertheless has a high learning curve. Anyway, it's a wonderful environment, you can go as deep as you want. It also you can make light usage and sound design. It has everything for a very reasonable price.

jonljacobi
KVRian
1425 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:00 pm

They called the sound designers programmers because they were programming the sound chips. Pre-recorded audio took a while to appear.

xbitz
KVRAF
2682 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:06 pm

"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

Acid Mitch
KVRAF
2017 posts since 5 Oct, 2005

Re: Reaper and Bitwig.

Post Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:03 am

Spring Goose wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:06 pm
Acid Mitch wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:44 am
Bitwig and Reaper are aimed at musicians, not computer programmers.
They both have demos you can try for yourself.

I can’t think of any daws aimed at computer programmers.
Reaktor
Max 4 Live
Synth Edit
I thought could I add "Bitwig's The Grid" onto this list?
Reaktor, Max and synth edit aren't daws. They're closer to programming languages/ dev kits.
The Grid is a bit similar but more like a modular synth. Your working with a bunch(160) of modules.
In the other programs you mention you can create the modules.

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