Genesis Pro

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TheMaestro
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130 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:26 am
Reefius wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:12 am
izonin wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:16 pm
I'm not saying it's going to be in direct competition with Avenger or Falcon. But it's really cool that it brings Android app prices to the PC platform.
I think the only reason for the $1 price is because it's 32 bit and Windows only.
Nah, it's the other way round. The dude just wanted to create a nice, affordable synth so he picked an easy and free (but legacy) framework that only supports WIndows 32-bit.
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
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DJ Warmonger
KVRAF
3690 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm

TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:26 am
Reefius wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:12 am
izonin wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:16 pm
I'm not saying it's going to be in direct competition with Avenger or Falcon. But it's really cool that it brings Android app prices to the PC platform.
I think the only reason for the $1 price is because it's 32 bit and Windows only.
Nah, it's the other way round. The dude just wanted to create a nice, affordable synth so he picked an easy and free (but legacy) framework that only supports WIndows 32-bit.
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
Oh god, another paranoid. What kind of user data could this synth possibly collect? :smack:
If one synth did, why would any other synth you already use do not?
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SampleScience
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4052 posts since 31 Oct, 2004 from Mtl, Canada

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:28 pm

TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
I'm sure the data of Windows 32-bit VST plugins users is very valuable. :hihi:

boriskarloff
KVRist
67 posts since 28 Feb, 2007

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:03 pm

TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
No, this plugin will collect music created by its users so Ummet Ozcan can steal thousands of tracks and release every day No. 1 Beatport track. Then he will became giga-multi-billionaire and biggest music legend of whole mankind... :phones: :)

clipnotic
KVRist
119 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:22 pm

I hope it is possible to buy 10 licenses at a stroke? And perhaps the possibility to give it as a present for a friends birthday for example could be interesting? :D
My english is not the best, feel free to correct me! :D
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TheMaestro
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130 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:43 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:26 am
Reefius wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:12 am
izonin wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:16 pm
I'm not saying it's going to be in direct competition with Avenger or Falcon. But it's really cool that it brings Android app prices to the PC platform.
I think the only reason for the $1 price is because it's 32 bit and Windows only.
Nah, it's the other way round. The dude just wanted to create a nice, affordable synth so he picked an easy and free (but legacy) framework that only supports WIndows 32-bit.
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
Oh god, another paranoid. What kind of user data could this synth possibly collect? :smack:
If one synth did, why would any other synth you already use do not?
Because it's in one of the demo videos already.
If you think you’re going to regret something in the morning, sleep until noon.

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Teksonik
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13108 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:50 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
Oh god, another paranoid. What kind of user data could this synth possibly collect? :smack:
If one synth did, why would any other synth you already use do not?
From Ummet himself.......
NextGen wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:32 am
The Genesis Pro is only collecting data offline for the end user only.
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teilo
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460 posts since 30 Mar, 2008

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:47 pm

It collects user-provided MIDI data and transforms it into complex electromagnetic wave forms which it blasts into the user’s brain by exploiting features of the hosting hardware. It’s quite nefarious.
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LeVzi
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2275 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:27 pm

boriskarloff wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:03 pm
TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
No, this plugin will collect music created by its users so Ummet Ozcan can steal thousands of tracks and release every day No. 1 Beatport track. Then he will became giga-multi-billionaire and biggest music legend of whole mankind... :phones: :)
You haven't heard the kinda stuff i'm going to make that might use it, he's not going to make enough for a happy meal off that !
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LeVzi
KVRAF
2275 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:29 pm

TS-12 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:22 am
LeVzi wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:53 pm
TS-12 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:02 pm
Jbridge works fine for bridging 32bit plugins to 64bit.
No, it doesn't. there are some that simply will not bridge. It's not a case of just bridge it and it works.

The good thing is, the ones that will not bridge anymore, are not really essential to me now, i've got 64bit replacements.

But i'd think that this, being a "new" 32bit plugin, should bridge OK, and I am positive that the dev for jbridge will work to get it all working.

Jbridge is the most reliable of bridges, IMO, but I am now trying to avoid using bridged plugin's for stability reasons.
Which ones specificaly , if you remember ?
Is that happening on Mac or PC for you ?

I'm on windows 10, I have some really old VSTi like ethnosphere, NI pro-53, Steinberg virtual guitarists 1 and 2 all J-bridged and working in cubase 10.
Can't think of any VSTi that didn't bridge on my computer,
I can't remember offhand. Out of about 20 plugins, 4 or 5 didn't work, so it's not a disaster. The early dblue 32bits aren't working other than Glitch, which I got working. Some other effects didn't work.
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clipnotic
KVRist
119 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:49 am

12 years ago I had to program a database for a social services provider. They had not much money and used still Win XP. So I decided to program this database easily with an old OpenOffice version. Practically everyone online in forums bashed that old OpenOffice system and told it's not stable and not good enough for professional work and outdated. Well, this database is still working fine and never crashed and it's working in Windows 10 without an update, too! So it's not the the system, it's the programmer! :D
My english is not the best, feel free to correct me! :D
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chk071
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23276 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:16 am

DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
Oh god, another paranoid. What kind of user data could this synth possibly collect? :smack:
Everything about us... dude... even the colour of our underwear...

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overhishead
KVRist
380 posts since 21 Jan, 2007

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:15 am

Mr. Ummet can you list the modules that aren't ported or present in the 64 bit version of SE on your website or here? I bet at least some of them have equivalent code or methodologies somewhere in plain view on the interwebs.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
61801 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:24 am

chk071 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:16 am
DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
TheMaestro wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:01 pm
My bet is that this synth collects user data and profits off of that.
Oh god, another paranoid. What kind of user data could this synth possibly collect? :smack:
Everything about us... dude... even the colour of our underwear...
ha! i dont wear any!!!

ramseysounds
KVRian
662 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:12 pm

12th March then, for those who are actually bothered
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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