Dark Zebra diva filters ..fm capable ?

[gentleclockdivider]

Before upgrading to dark zebra , I would like to know if the diva filters are FM capable

cheers

[EvilDragon]

They just have regular mod inputs as any other filter in Zebra, plus mod matrix.

[gentleclockdivider]

So unlike the xmf filters , they are not fm capable ?
That's a big of a bummer , loving the xmf filters but dislike them with high resonance ( being spoiled by talmod and tranzistow ) , was hoping that dark zebra would step it up a notch , but no filter FM is no go for me .
The change of updated xmf filter algoritms ( to zdf ) is also pretty small I guess
Let's wait for zebra 3 then ( fingers crossed )

[Howard]

Tip: Experiment more with "parallel" routing and the "biased" driver.

[gentleclockdivider]

Hi howard , I know how to extensively use the xmf filters ,and tried lot of tricks like serial routing which sums the resonance peaks etc .,
I didn't critisize their flexibility , far from it , just the imho outdated filter algoritms and overall character

[Howard]

Try harder

[AnX]

or just tell him/upload a patch

[gentleclockdivider]

Woow , I never said I have problems utilising the filters , some reactions are just arrogant
I just don't like the resonance at certain settings and the saturation stages .
Here are some patches , not saying I'm an expert but def . not a noob
cheers

[drzhnn]

Somehow I can agree with both gentleclockdivider and Howard

XMF resonance indeed can sound very unpleasant at times, even ear-piercing at some settings. And Overload doesn't always help and just makes everything sound duller. But what I found interesting is that XMF behaves much more predictable and sound nicer when I control both Resonance and Overload parameters at the same time. They sort of heal each others weak points. I usually do this via XY pad: X = Resonance, Overload and Cutoff; Y = FM. The resulting FilterFM sound can be on par with TAL-MOD or DIva, if not better, and you still have all the control over the character, because you can change the depth of Resonance and Overload modulation individually. You can actually get a lot of different filter characters from the same configuration by playing with just these two parameters. But it does require some time to explore the possibilities and tame the beast while in other synths filters may come already balanced and fine tuned for us and ready to go.

[Howard]

Sorry, I meant that light-heartedly. Next time I'll include a after my usual "smack-with-stick" to make that clearer. FWIW I agree that XMF resonance can sound unpleasant. Indeed, the whole of Zebra is far from being a "sweet spot" synth. It requires dedication or even obsession.

[gentleclockdivider]

NO problem

[jacobh]

So unlike the xmf filters , they are not fm capable ?
That's a big of a bummer , loving the xmf filters but dislike them with high resonance ( being spoiled by talmod and tranzistow ) , was hoping that dark zebra would step it up a notch , but no filter FM is no go for me .
The change of updated xmf filter algoritms ( to zdf ) is also pretty small I guess
Let's wait for zebra 3 then ( fingers crossed )

I agree! This is a big disappointment for me as well. I've been searching for my personal "ultimate analog synth", as I'll call it. My ultimate analog synth which would include the capability for filter FM along with multiple analog filters, and the capability to change decay time with velocity, with that vintage analog sparkle. I've tried many different synth, and the closest I've come to it is either Diva or VK-2, both which have an awesome sparkling, punchy, saturated analog quality to them, but can't modulate envelope times with velocity.

I had thought that maybe I had finally found the holy grail when I found out that ZebraHz had Diva's filters (which seems under-advertised by U-he), but now I'm at a bit of a letdown when I found out that the Diva filters in ZebraHz don't support audio rate modulation.

I've tried many VA synths, and all of them seem to have a letdown in some area. If any of you have suggestions of what would fit my ultimate analog synth (the quality and sonic versatility of Diva, but supporting modulating envelope times with velocity), I'd love to hear it?

Thanks!

[zerocrossing]

So unlike the xmf filters , they are not fm capable ?
That's a big of a bummer , loving the xmf filters but dislike them with high resonance ( being spoiled by talmod and tranzistow ) , was hoping that dark zebra would step it up a notch , but no filter FM is no go for me .
The change of updated xmf filter algoritms ( to zdf ) is also pretty small I guess
Let's wait for zebra 3 then ( fingers crossed )

I agree! This is a big disappointment for me as well. I've been searching for my personal "ultimate analog synth", as I'll call it. My ultimate analog synth which would include the capability for filter FM along with multiple analog filters, and the capability to change decay time with velocity, with that vintage analog sparkle. I've tried many different synth, and the closest I've come to it is either Diva or VK-2, both which have an awesome sparkling, punchy, saturated analog quality to them, but can't modulate envelope times with velocity.

I had thought that maybe I had finally found the holy grail when I found out that ZebraHz had Diva's filters (which seems under-advertised by U-he), but now I'm at a bit of a letdown when I found out that the Diva filters in ZebraHz don't support audio rate modulation.

I've tried many VA synths, and all of them seem to have a letdown in some area. If any of you have suggestions of what would fit my ultimate analog synth (the quality and sonic versatility of Diva, but supporting modulating envelope times with velocity), I'd love to hear it?

Thanks!

Try out Dune 3 and Massive X, though their oscillators aren’t analog modeled like Diva’s. For the whole analog package, try Repro and Legend. If you don’t mind using mono sounds, Monark is awesome and its components can be used in Reaktor Blocks to make whatever combo you can think of. Most Reaktor filters can be FM modulated.

[gentleclockdivider]

I used the promo to upgrade to zebra hz , just because of the amazing sounding filters ...
If I want filter fm or another flavour I go for tranzistow, reaktor and talmod .
Try tranzistow , learn it inside out , ..you will not be dissapointed , you can do almost anything with it , audio rate matrix if you wish to do so ..feedback routings , amazing zdf filters etc..
Zebra hz has a moog resonator with 4 bands , tranzistow has an 8 band resonator , each band can be lp,hp bp or notch , for it's source and destination ..so you can morph the resonator bank .
To top it off, there are 4 of these banks ..
Imho it's the best sounding and deepest vst out there besides reaktor , the learning curve is verry steep but so worth it .
It is not a commercial project but a labour of love created by a true Genius .
Don't forget to donate or create patches for it ( I am still working on a set of 200 )
If people only knew what tranzistow was capable off, oh boy

[zerocrossing]

I used the promo to upgrade to zebra hz , just because of the amazing sounding filters ...
If I want filter fm or another flavour I go for tranzistow, reaktor and talmod .
Try tranzistow , learn it inside out , ..you will not be dissapointed , you can do almost anything with it , audio rate matrix if you wish to do so ..feedback routings , amazing zdf filters etc..
Zebra hz has a moog resonator with 4 bands , tranzistow has an 8 band resonator , each band can be lp,hp bp or notch , for it's source and destination ..so you can morph the resonator bank .
To top it off, there are 4 of these banks ..
Imho it's the best sounding and deepest vst out there besides reaktor , the learning curve is verry steep but so worth it .
It is not a commercial project but a labour of love created by a true Genius .
Don't forget to donate or create patches for it ( I am still working on a set of 200 )
If people only knew what tranzistow was capable off, oh boy

Agreed. I was happy to pay him some money because it truly is an amazing instrument, though I have to say that I can see why people would be put off by it. He could easily have a commercial success if he was willing to give it a UI/UX redesign, but he’s not interested.