What would you say comparing ACE and Bazille

[jacobh]

Maybe uhe should make a true modular, that would have (built in or purchasable) modules of everything they have done up this day?

Cheese machine, diva, repro, hive, bazille etc etc oscillators, filters, uhbik fx etc etc..

I think at one point they were working towards something similar, under the name "Berlin Modular." The ACE manual may even make reference to the project. Pretty sure the Berlin Modular project isn't happening, or at least, not any time soon. Wouldn't mind seeing some VCV Rack modules though. I'd be happy to pay for U-he filters, Oscs, Multiplixer, Shape Sequencer, etc. VCV has a lot of great modules, especially on the control side, but it could definitely benefit from more super high quality filter and osc options IMO. As well as Urs' eye for design (like the Multiplexer, which is just a brilliant design IMO).

Wasn't that bazille?

True! Though I'd rather see cherry modules than vcv

Well, my impression of demoing them both, is that Bazille to me has a more sterile digital sound to it, while ACE has a more rounded harmonically rich tone to it. I'd love to see ACE expanded, with some more features, effects like the distortion in Bazille, and other things Bazille has.

It seems like the thing that ACE and Bazzle have over VCV Rack and Cherry Audio modular is better support for polyphony. From what I understand about VCV and Cherry, it often not trival to take a monophonic patch and make it polyphonic. With ACE and Bazzle all you have to do is flip one switch.

[nilhartman]

Bazille can sound as analogue as you want, it just needs to be set accordingly.

[jacobh]

Bazille can sound as analogue as you want, it just needs to be set accordingly.

My understanding is that Bazille can’t do soft sync and that analog style PWM is difficult to achieve with it, both of which for me are rather characteristic of the analog sounds I want to make.

[nilhartman]

These aren’t the sounds I try to dial tbh, I’m pretty sure you can achieve what you’re aiming for though. Have you read Bazille’s amazingly insightful manual ?

[pdxindy]

Bazille can sound as analogue as you want, it just needs to be set accordingly.

My understanding is that Bazille can’t do soft sync and that analog style PWM is difficult to achieve with it, both of which for me are rather characteristic of the analog sounds I want to make.

Very few analog synths do soft sync

[EvilDragon]

Yes, soft sync is not really found that often on analog synths. Hard sync is the one that's on almost every analog synth.

[Ploki]

i always thought of bazille as a digital monster.
maybe because of this:

Bazille is highly unusual for a modular synth.

Although the filters are traditional analogue models, the oscillators are unashamedly digital

[nichttuntun]

Yes, I think this is a fact that makes this synth so interesting. Btw it can sound heavenly analogish too. I love Bazille for what it is but mainly for its nastiness and experimental sound qualities.

[cantaloupe]

I think Bazille is u-he's best sounding synth overall. It is conceptually very interesting and i love its tone. People claiming it sound harsh needs to calm down on the modulation amounts. It is a pity that there isn't a special "free running" version similar to Aalto and Kaivo. A lower voiced free running Bazille would bring out its modular features and sequencer a lot more. I always ended up using it in a more traditional keyboard way for this reason, where many of its deep features were underused.

[Ploki]

I mean, harsh is not always a bad thing. I kinda love bazille for its harshness.

[nichttuntun]

I think Bazille is u-he's best sounding synth overall. It is conceptually very interesting and i love its tone. People claiming it sound harsh needs to calm down on the modulation amounts. It is a pity that there isn't a special "free running" version similar to Aalto and Kaivo. A lower voiced free running Bazille would bring out its modular features and sequencer a lot more. I always ended up using it in a more traditional keyboard way for this reason, where many of its deep features were underused.

Hi. I have and live Aalto too. What do you mean with "free running"? Thx

[EvilDragon]

It means no MIDI input, just droning perpetually.

[nichttuntun]

Thank you. Yes, Aalto does this.

[Howard]

Set to mono and hold a note.

[EvilDragon]

Yeah the idea is that you wouldn't need any MIDI input, which is dependant on the host transport as well... You know, like those self-generative modular patches.

Zebrify already works like that if you just patch in an oscillator.