What's up at Plogue?

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ijiwaru
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57 posts since 25 Oct, 2019

Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:36 am

Will the chipsynth FC have the extra FDS sound channel? How about the sound expansion chips such as Konami VRC6, Namco 163, Sunsoft 5B (aka FME-7), etc? Will it be able to load samples for DPCM playback? Apologies if these questions have been answered already. It's certainly the chipsynth I'm anticipating the most.

davidv@plogue
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671 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:52 am

NERF_PROTOSS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:16 am
Marie Kondo would definitely tell me to keep it installed.
Comment of the year so far, congrats :D
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
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davidv@plogue
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671 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:53 am

ijiwaru wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:36 am
Will the chipsynth FC have the extra FDS sound channel? How about the sound expansion chips such as Konami VRC6, Namco 163, Sunsoft 5B (aka FME-7), etc? Will it be able to load samples for DPCM playback? Apologies if these questions have been answered already. It's certainly the chipsynth I'm anticipating the most.
All yes. Cheers
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
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foosnark
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5109 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

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Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:26 am

NERF_PROTOSS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:16 am
anyway, this might be a personal weakness/limitation, but I find getting a usable FM sound is usually about picking different FM pairs for different jobs and layering (with the occasional 3-stack if I'm feeling spicy), with more than 4-6 operators things start to feel messy/redundant and I start to think about other tools.
I'm a modular FM junkie, and I pretty much agree with this.

2op FM is, frankly, pretty awesome. Adding a second modulator to a single carrier has extremely diminished returns in terms of usefulness IMHO, and a third modulator has basically no extra value. So with more than 2 operators I very much prefer going "wide" rather than "deep" with algorithms... and frankly I think 4op is plenty. 6op just seems overly indulgent to me.

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Jace-BeOS
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5846 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

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Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:33 am

So I assume the 8 operators in the Yamaha FS1R is beyond overly indulgent...?
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foosnark
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5109 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

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Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:50 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:33 am
So I assume the 8 operators in the Yamaha FS1R is beyond overly indulgent...?
I've never tried an FS1R, but I doubt I would enjoy using it. Honestly, I didn't even like programming the 4op DX100.

FM8 made things a little more accessible but the patches I created tended to use fewer ops.

perpetual3
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1299 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

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Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:06 am

Speaking of the DX100 - I’ve found PortaFM to come the closest to capturing a certain character of the DX100 such as heard in Rhythm & Sound Carrier EP.

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Jace-BeOS
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Post Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:59 am

foosnark wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:50 am
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:33 am
So I assume the 8 operators in the Yamaha FS1R is beyond overly indulgent...?
I've never tried an FS1R, but I doubt I would enjoy using it. Honestly, I didn't even like programming the 4op DX100.

FM8 made things a little more accessible but the patches I created tended to use fewer ops.
Yeah, agreed. I won’t even try to program hardware FM synths from their panels. Certainly not the “classics”. There are some Windows/Mac-based sysex/MIDI editors out there that make things better, though.
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nichttuntun
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851 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:19 pm

NERF_PROTOSS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:16 am
in some sense chipsynth MD already is that 8-OP beast, with two stackable 4-OP patches, solid modulation capabilities (randomising the multi parameter on a modulator is a lot of fun...), 12-bit DAC option for a clean sound... and a lot more besides that take it beyond just a straight up YM2612 emulation. I love this thing. Marie Kondo would definitely tell me to keep it installed.

anyway, this might be a personal weakness/limitation, but I find getting a usable FM sound is usually about picking different FM pairs for different jobs and layering (with the occasional 3-stack if I'm feeling spicy), with more than 4-6 operators things start to feel messy/redundant and I start to think about other tools. I don't begrudge anyone for wanting an FM synth with a gazillion operators, though, and it would be cool to see what people might do with it.
Oh yes. The stacking option is awesome. You can get really crazy here with de-tuning and audio rate. You even can modulate the positions via the matrix. It's ultra-fat.

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alvfaria
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1188 posts since 4 Apr, 2011 from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:16 pm

Any chance on some casiotone chipsynth?

Meffy
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21321 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture

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Post Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:32 pm

I keep hoping for a bargain on the Bag of Chips bundle, but Twitter and Facebook are anathema to me.

Couldn't find a form to sign up for an emailed newsletter; is there one and I'm overlooking it?

davidv@plogue
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671 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:39 am

alvfaria wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:16 pm
Any chance on some casiotone chipsynth?
Its on the 'maybe' pile.
Meffy wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:32 pm
I keep hoping for a bargain on the Bag of Chips bundle, but Twitter and Facebook are anathema to me.

Couldn't find a form to sign up for an emailed newsletter; is there one and I'm overlooking it?
At the bottom of the web page completely
https://plogue.com
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
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alvfaria
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1188 posts since 4 Apr, 2011 from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:37 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:39 am
Its on the 'maybe' pile.
Well, maybe is better than never

Meffy
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21321 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture

Re: What's up at Plogue?

Post Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:02 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:39 am
Meffy wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:32 pm
Couldn't find a form to sign up for an emailed newsletter; is there one and I'm overlooking it?
At the bottom of the web page completely
https://plogue.com
D'oh! Sure enough, blind spot. Thank you.

perpetual3
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1299 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

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Post Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:08 am

I use PortaFM quite often, and have finally gotten around to using MD. I would really love if PortaFM could be have all of the modulation destinations that the MD has. Modulating the attack/decay of both the modulator and carrier on the PortaFM creates some combinations that generate amazing and unexpected texture and timbre.

In my dreams, Plogue would simply take the PortaFM engine and expand it like they did the MD. It could be the synth to nail the R&S Basic channel sound (see Carrier EP for examples) in combo with a delay.

Also, I think that the effects section needs a phaser. Smart Electronix has a great one called Supaphaser that’s open source. The noise generated by these synths comes alive with a phaser.

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