DUNE 3 is now available!!

[fisherKing]

good, then, that there are simpler synths for those unable (or unwilling) to learn their way around a 'complex' GUI...

Boy, you really are offended by the fact that people don't like this workflow! It sounds like you really need to justify people's opinions as being caused by being "too dense to get a synth with layers."

It's ... frustrating. There is no lack of intelligence, here. Perhaps a slight lack of patience, but it's hard to claim that when there are other synths that are just as "complex" and require just as much of a deep-dive to use. It's not that users are unable NOR are they "unwilling" to learn the ins and outs of a synth: it's simply that Dune is cumbersome, and when there are other tools that are have less friction to patchmaking, it's fine to choose to use another synth.

But, hey: you do keep playing the "it's your opinion" card in the end.

...in an insulting way... but still, it's there. So, we'll just carry on.

you seem really offended by my taking offense at people who rant about the synth's GUI. guess we're much alike.

try messing with massive X (challenging, but well-worth exploring); makes dune3 look like a piece of cake (or a walk in the park... or something).

meanwhile, some kvr'ers are not the least bit intimidated by dune3's GUI; others may find it a challenge yet are willing to take that on; still others run the other way. and ALL of it is ok.

am not insulting anyone if i point out that their 'fact' is, in fact, their opinion. that's the important take-away here. so, let's just carry on.

[chk071]

Does Dune 3 have multi out? I don't remember...

[clipnotic]

Does Dune 3 have multi out? I don't remember...

I don't see some but ...

[e-crooner]

Layers, hm. I like to have 2, on which I can make two very different components of one sound, like attack and sustain. But I don't like layers for layering similar sounds such as several pads. Probably because I don't like complex, intense sounds.

I am not fond of Dune 3's workflow and GUI, either, frankly. It's not visual enough for me, not color-coded like the two layers in Sylenth1 for instance.

[Dirtgrain]

When I don't use MSoundFactory or Biotek 2 for several months, I find them cumbersome and unwieldy until I figure out again how to do things. I suppose part of the divide in this conversation might be that those who use Dune regularly are less bothered by its workflow. Is that the case at all?

[fisherKing]

When I don't use MSoundFactory or Biotek 2 for several months, I find them cumbersome and unwieldy until I figure out again how to do things. I suppose part of the divide in this conversation might be that those who use Dune regularly are less bothered by its workflow. Is that the case at all?

that's a good point. i use it a lot, and am comfortable with the GUI. i think this is true with anything tho... a DAW, an OS; use something regularly, and you'll adapt.

[digitalboytn]

The dual filters in D3 are one of the features that look like a nice upgrade from D2...

But I can't see in the manual if the filters are assignable to an oscillator,like in Thorn...

Does something know if the oscillators in D3 are assignable, or are they locked into a common route ?

Individual assignment would make those dual filters so much more flexible

[clipnotic]

I would really know, what's the advantage of 2 filters? I have many plugs with that feature, but I still use only one filter for my sounds ...

[Dasheesh]

I would really know, what's the advantage of 2 filters? I have many plugs with that feature, but I still use only one filter for my sounds ...

there are many instruments that benefit from dual filters. dune is not one of them. there is no point to it. it was always ment to be a single filter instrument. unfortunately, like many before him, he asked the euro edm preset crowd what they needed. and of course they said everything. that's just the world we live in now. a world without class or experience. get use to it.

[clipnotic]

I'll make music in many genres and I have and use many plugins and program the most sounds myself but I never needed two filters ...

[digitalboytn]

Using two filters can be quite an advantage when it comes to tone shaping...

They can be run in series or parallel,or they can be assigned to separate oscillators etc...

You don't have to slam everything like a lot of the EDM crowd seem to like doing,but dual filters can used in a more subtle way that leads to some rather nice tonal variations

Now back to my original question...

Are the filters in D3 assignable to individual is oscillators please ?

[Dasheesh]

what's the eight layers for?

[AnX]

he asked the euro edm preset crowd what they needed. and of course they said everything.

Other way around, it was a feature request (although even V1 had dual filters already)

[Saukar30]

Now back to my original question...

Are the filters in D3 assignable to individual is oscillators please ?

No. The oscillators are not assignable to each of the filters. However, this is where the layers come in. If you want to assign one the oscillators to a different filter, you would just use another layer (in this fashion, you would have 1 oscillator going through 2 filters)... with all new asdrs, fx, etc specific for that one sound.

You could for instance just have 3 oscillators, but each of them assigned to their own layer with 2 filters, different volume & filter envelopes, panning, each osc going through 1 of the 2 effect busses, each with an lfo & an mseg. It's just a different way to think about sound design... each layer equal one fat ass oscillator (not to mention the oscillator stacks).

[digitalboytn]

Thanks for the heads up on the filters...

I might have have to put in a feature request...

It would be nice to have those two filters assignable,so that you only needed to work with one layer most of the time...