Tracktion Waveform 11 PRO looks cool

[jens]

GUI still looks like programmer's art.

its GUI actually once was a work of beauty:

https://www.barryrudolph.com/utilities/ ... ktion.html

[antic604]

Wow, more meaningless irrelevant opinions... KVR is a magical place. Why can’t you just criticize a program based on its weaknesses and strengths as opposed to elevating your subjective opinions based on your irrelevant aesthetic judgements and experiences from 3 versions ago to the level of objective truth? People are trying to get information here, not to hear you venting. Your emotions don’t matter to anyone here.

The GUI being shitty is a weakness, it is relevant (for many) and the screenshots are from Waveform Pro (11).

I've no idea why you get your panties in a bunch over this? No one will provide you OBJECTIVE info, because DAWs usefulness isn't objective.

[antic604]

GUI still looks like programmer's art.

its GUI actually once was a work of beauty:

https://www.barryrudolph.com/utilities/ ... ktion.html

Wow, that was much better indeed

[Danilo Villanova]

Wow, more meaningless irrelevant opinions... KVR is a magical place. Why can’t you just criticize a program based on its weaknesses and strengths as opposed to elevating your subjective opinions based on your irrelevant aesthetic judgements and experiences from 3 versions ago to the level of objective truth? People are trying to get information here, not to hear you venting. Your emotions don’t matter to anyone here.

The GUI being shitty is a weakness, it is relevant (for many) and the screenshots are from Waveform Pro (11).

I've no idea why you get your panties in a bunch over this? No one will provide you OBJECTIVE info, because DAWs usefulness isn't objective.

The weakness is you thinking that your opinion of it being "shitty" is actually relevant. Obviously no one cares about anybody's "feelings" about the aesthetic value of a software or how it is buggy because of how version 1.2 crashed on them. We do care about relevant information that can help the buyer. People here think their feelings are so important and they feel the need to verbally destroy any company that is not THEIR favorite one. Nothing about your comment is helpful to anyone. You wrote it because you are feeling cute. No one cares.

[antic604]

The weakness is you thinking that your opinion of it being "shitty" is actually relevant. Obviously no one cares about anybody's "feelings" about the aesthetic value of a software or how it is buggy because of how version 1.2 crashed on them. We do care about relevant information that can help the buyer. People here think their feelings are so important and they feel the need to verbally destroy any company that is not THEIR favorite one. Nothing about your comment is helpful to anyone. You wrote it because you are feeling cute. No one cares.

I look like my avatar. Believe me - I'm not feeling remotely "cute"

And yes, I care about how software looks and many people do, too. If you spend several hours a day using something it has to be pleasing and easy on the eye, well designed, helful to the workflow and functionalities.

For me half-a-screen "drawer" of buttons with plain text labels is not that. Or a bank of native devices that all look alike is neither. If I get sick just looking at it I won't care it has Melodyne, Autotune or whatever else.

And for people that feel about software like I do, my comments might be valuable.

[jens]

The weakness is you thinking that your opinion of it being "shitty" is actually relevant. Obviously no one cares about anybody's "feelings" about the aesthetic value of a software or how it is buggy because of how version 1.2 crashed on them. We do care about relevant information that can help the buyer. People here think their feelings are so important and they feel the need to verbally destroy any company that is not THEIR favorite one. Nothing about your comment is helpful to anyone. You wrote it because you are feeling cute. No one cares.

Nobody cares about your hurt feelings, fanboi.

[teilo]

Wow, more meaningless irrelevant opinions... KVR is a magical place. Why can’t you just criticize a program based on its weaknesses and strengths as opposed to elevating your subjective opinions based on your irrelevant aesthetic judgements and experiences from 3 versions ago to the level of objective truth? People are trying to get information here, not to hear you venting. Your emotions don’t matter to anyone here.

Nor do wordy rants about other people's reviews. Please comment on the subject, not your opinions of others.

[JoaquinAce]

Everyone ok now? So how is it functionally? I honestly would like to know. Yes I can demo it but I want to read others experience before going through downloading it etc.

[BertKoor]

I honestly would like to know. Yes I can demo it but I want to read others experience before going through downloading it etc.

Then better look in the dedicated Tracktion / Waveform forum:
viewforum.php?f=22

[machinesworking]

No one will provide you OBJECTIVE info, because DAWs usefulness isn't objective.

Do not agree at all with this. You can rig any DAW to do MPE, but the difference in usefulness between Bitwig's MPE implementation and Live's clunky workaround is not objective in the least. If you wanted to write scores for orchestras then using either Live or Bitwig to do so is going to be a bigger challenge than in Logic, Cubase or DP. This list goes on and on.

I think the new version of Traction looks better than Bitwig or Live for that matter, and better than the old version. As far as my opinion on the GUI I wouldn't have shared it if there wasn't some negative attention from you about it. It's certainly not as fugly as Reaper, and I'm more curious about things like MPE etc. what sets Traction apart from other DAWs, what makes it more useful and less than other DAWs? The real objective strengths of it compared.

[jonljacobi]

I would say that a DAW's usefulness isn't at all hard to quantify--if it does what you want, it's useful. As to suitability to task and/or efficiency, which is what we're really talking about, that's quantifiable as well. You can measure cognition times, eye, mouse and finger travel, # of steps required, and a whole lot more to see just how efficient a DAW is at any particular task. No one does it, but they should. Instead you quite often find designers following "design trends".

I also think some designers tend to design with an eye toward organizing and grouping features rather than putting them within easy reach where they are most needed. I have theories as to why, but only the designers really know.

As to Tracktion, I like a lot of it, some of it I don't. Which I guess all of us can say about every DAW.

[antic604]

No one will provide you OBJECTIVE info, because DAWs usefulness isn't objective.

Do not agree at all with this. You can rig any DAW to do MPE, but the difference in usefulness between Bitwig's MPE implementation and Live's clunky workaround is not objective in the least. If you wanted to write scores for orchestras then using either Live or Bitwig to do so is going to be a bigger challenge than in Logic, Cubase or DP. This list goes on and on.

I didn't mean it like that. OP clearly asked for personal (but somehow still objective??) opinion, not comparison of feature lists.

EDIT: sorry, I seem to have confused OP with that other angry guy

[jonljacobi]

Actually, I should say that I very much appreciate that Tracktion's interface scales and the slide-into-view panels. I'd like it more if the drawing were a bit smoother. I have not seen an option to simply have them pop open. Is there one?

[pdxindy]

I like the feature set of Waveform. The stability has always been poor on Mac. From Tracktion 2 up until a few versions ago I upgraded each time and it remained crash prone and I finally stopped upgrading cause the upgrade prices had increased over time and stability hadn't.

I'm happy with my other DAW's at this point...

[JoaquinAce]

I downloaded the demo but haven’t gotten around testing it. In general, how has Waveform 10 been with regards to stability on Windows?