Ashlee simpson caught lip synching on SNL
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- KVRian
- 897 posts since 2 Aug, 2001 from norway
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
As for the 'lip syncing' - and me defending Ashlee, so hell must be forming ice somewhere... I think it was more a 'guide track' for her than a actual 'Solid Gold' moment. Maybe it had some back up vocals on it as well which no one got to hear?
Not that I'm a big Ashlee fan - but it wasn't THAT catastrophic IMO.
Now anyone steps up on my honey mama Mandy Moore, I'll bitch slap the snot out of the lot of ya!
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
I think that the reason that Ashlee Simpson is being treated as a joke, is because she was seen as a joke to start with. Everyone knew she was the "less talented sister" and this just kind of confirmed it. It is pretty obvious that Ashlee at least sang the vocal track she lipsynched to- though it is very bloody obvious that the track was run through a anteres autotune, and many other vocal processors. I think people were more upset by milli vanilli because the public took them more seriously, only to find out that they were bamboozled. Further, I dont think that the public was really all that much more outraged, it was just that they had their grammy taken away from them.
but racism? naw. I thought less of Ashlee simpsons' music than I think of crunk. At least lil jon is behind the mix boards trying his best. He is not being spoonfed songs from the best producers on the labels staff. Do you really think that Ashlee is going to have any credibility after this? especially now that she has blamed her band? since her band can misteriously play her voice through guitar, keyboards and drums?
I will be the first to agree with you that Milli vanilli got a raw deal. I just wish that instead of crying racism people would cry asshole. There are alot of assholes in this world, and the same asshole that would purposely keep someone of color down, is going to most likely have no problem doing the same thing to a white person. I think that things like this expose what a dirty biz the music biz is. Its not inherently racist, it is inherently out to exploit any artist.
but racism? naw. I thought less of Ashlee simpsons' music than I think of crunk. At least lil jon is behind the mix boards trying his best. He is not being spoonfed songs from the best producers on the labels staff. Do you really think that Ashlee is going to have any credibility after this? especially now that she has blamed her band? since her band can misteriously play her voice through guitar, keyboards and drums?
I will be the first to agree with you that Milli vanilli got a raw deal. I just wish that instead of crying racism people would cry asshole. There are alot of assholes in this world, and the same asshole that would purposely keep someone of color down, is going to most likely have no problem doing the same thing to a white person. I think that things like this expose what a dirty biz the music biz is. Its not inherently racist, it is inherently out to exploit any artist.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
You stage name "Muff" sounds too gay!Muff Wiggler wrote:hey, what the hell, I'll 'call you out'
Tony, you are a fuckin' idiot, it's sad you'll not be able to see what a stupid wankstain you look like.
Bring it on, bitch
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- KVRAF
- 2107 posts since 12 May, 2003 from gone
yeah, quite obviously for those with little to no experience wigglin' tha muff
now we finally get to the bottom of your propensity for calling others 'gay'...... feeling a little lonely there in the closet, are ya?

now we finally get to the bottom of your propensity for calling others 'gay'...... feeling a little lonely there in the closet, are ya?
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
If his name was 'Hugh Jass', I'd concur Tony...
But Muff sounds good to me - day or night.
But Muff sounds good to me - day or night.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
So if someone call you an ass, asshole, jackass, etc. because of their disagreement with ANY of your opinions, you wouldn't defend yourself????pough wrote:Wow. It's been a long time since I've seen this level of obstinate stupidity. Try to keep in mind that the N-word is losing its shock value because it's being turned into a positive word and because the tide is slowly turning with regards to the issues surrounding it.
However, in the instances of your use of the words gay and homo, you are using a word that defines what people are and you are making it into a demeaning epithet. I had a christian friend who used the word gay a lot and never understood why I found it to be terribly insensitive. So I started to use the word 'christian' in the same way, with the same amount of scorn, as though being a christian were low, base, pathetic and disgusting. He stopped using gay.
I think I might start using American or Texan as a substitute for gay or homo... because, hey, if you're not an American or a Texan, then it's a valid insult, right?
As for the other issues that were brought up and hammered non-stop, what a joke. "You should get mad at Eric, too, for calling me an ass." and "This was between us so you should leave us alone." What kind of f**king christian-ass texan brings up moronic american points like these and expects to have them taken seriuously? Talking about missing the point.
Sorry Pough, I'm not feeling you logic.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Not getting involved in the fight, but just so the playing field is leveled, "muff" is slang for female genitalia. Gleaning the gayness therein might prove problematic.TonyVanDam wrote:You stage name "Muff" sounds too gay!
Presuming, of course, that you meant the male version of same-sexery.
Cheers,
Steve
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
Sorry Muff, I'm 110% straight. I love too many women (especially white and latina women). I don't play on the gay side of the fence.Muff Wiggler wrote:yeah, quite obviously for those with little to no experience wigglin' tha muff![]()
now we finally get to the bottom of your propensity for calling others 'gay'...... feeling a little lonely there in the closet, are ya?![]()
Yes, I love pie. But not in my face.
But you on the other hand with your 10 inch tougue.....(just kidding, don't go politically correct with me now)!
- KVRAF
- 37440 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Well he didn't see it when I said it either. Guess he's being a real Tonyjcroot wrote:If only you'd come in around page 3, I could have the last ten minutes back of my life instead of reading through msr. vandam's mix of brainless, posturing, bad-faith twaddle. The point is tony, while other racial slurs are losing their effect because people don't use them to mean something "weak, garbage, pathetic, etc." you're saying that you mean homo to mean exactly something that is "weak, garbage, pathetic, etc." You see the problem now? idiot.Wow. It's been a long time since I've seen this level of obstinate stupidity. Try to keep in mind that the N-word is losing its shock value because it's being turned into a positive word and because the tide is slowly turning with regards to the issues surrounding it.
However, in the instances of your use of the words gay and homo, you are using a word that defines what people are and you are making it into a demeaning epithet. I had a christian friend who used the word gay a lot and never understood why I found it to be terribly insensitive. So I started to use the word 'christian' in the same way, with the same amount of scorn, as though being a christian were low, base, pathetic and disgusting. He stopped using gay.
I think I might start using American or Texan as a substitute for gay or homo... because, hey, if you're not an American or a Texan, then it's a valid insult, right?
As for the other issues that were brought up and hammered non-stop, what a joke. "You should get mad at Eric, too, for calling me an ass." and "This was between us so you should leave us alone." What kind of f**king christian-ass texan brings up moronic american points like these and expects to have them taken seriuously? Talking about missing the point.
- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
Congratulations on increasing the already amazing levels of idiocy. I'm going to hope, for the sake of all the people who have to actually interact with you, that you're just kidding.TonyVanDam wrote:So if someone call you an ass, asshole, jackass, etc. because of their disagreement with ANY of your opinions, you wouldn't defend yourself????![]()
That's pretty damn obvious. Logic seems to continually escape you. Strikingly so. Like I said before: obstinate stupidity.TonyVanDam wrote:Sorry Pough, I'm not feeling you logic.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
First of all, your granny is an idiot.jcroot wrote:If only you'd come in around page 3, I could have the last ten minutes back of my life instead of reading through msr. vandam's mix of brainless, posturing, bad-faith twaddle. The point is tony, while other racial slurs are losing their effect because people don't use them to mean something "weak, garbage, pathetic, etc." you're saying that you mean homo to mean exactly something that is "weak, garbage, pathetic, etc." You see the problem now? idiot.Wow. It's been a long time since I've seen this level of obstinate stupidity. Try to keep in mind that the N-word is losing its shock value because it's being turned into a positive word and because the tide is slowly turning with regards to the issues surrounding it.
However, in the instances of your use of the words gay and homo, you are using a word that defines what people are and you are making it into a demeaning epithet. I had a christian friend who used the word gay a lot and never understood why I found it to be terribly insensitive. So I started to use the word 'christian' in the same way, with the same amount of scorn, as though being a christian were low, base, pathetic and disgusting. He stopped using gay.
I think I might start using American or Texan as a substitute for gay or homo... because, hey, if you're not an American or a Texan, then it's a valid insult, right?
As for the other issues that were brought up and hammered non-stop, what a joke. "You should get mad at Eric, too, for calling me an ass." and "This was between us so you should leave us alone." What kind of f**king christian-ass texan brings up moronic american points like these and expects to have them taken seriuously? Talking about missing the point.
Secondly, if you really read pages 3 to this page, you know damn go and well that Eric namecall me first (like you just did by calling me an idiot).
Yes, call him a Homo (as in weak, pathetic, etc.) were the wrong choice of words. But I'm not sorry for verbally defending myself...at all.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
You didn't answer the question....Eric namecall me first, but you don't call him out for his actions, but you're willing to call me out for how I response to that crap?pough wrote:Congratulations on increasing the already amazing levels of idiocy. I'm going to hope, for the sake of all the people who have to actually interact with you, that you're just kidding.TonyVanDam wrote:So if someone call you an ass, asshole, jackass, etc. because of their disagreement with ANY of your opinions, you wouldn't defend yourself????![]()
That's pretty damn obvious. Logic seems to continually escape you. Strikingly so. Like I said before: obstinate stupidity.TonyVanDam wrote:Sorry Pough, I'm not feeling you logic.
Like a few other, you making excuses for Eric.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
At least YOU didn't call me an idiot like this crown did.aMUSEd wrote:Well he didn't see it when I said it either. Guess he's being a real Tonyjcroot wrote:If only you'd come in around page 3, I could have the last ten minutes back of my life instead of reading through msr. vandam's mix of brainless, posturing, bad-faith twaddle. The point is tony, while other racial slurs are losing their effect because people don't use them to mean something "weak, garbage, pathetic, etc." you're saying that you mean homo to mean exactly something that is "weak, garbage, pathetic, etc." You see the problem now? idiot.Wow. It's been a long time since I've seen this level of obstinate stupidity. Try to keep in mind that the N-word is losing its shock value because it's being turned into a positive word and because the tide is slowly turning with regards to the issues surrounding it.
However, in the instances of your use of the words gay and homo, you are using a word that defines what people are and you are making it into a demeaning epithet. I had a christian friend who used the word gay a lot and never understood why I found it to be terribly insensitive. So I started to use the word 'christian' in the same way, with the same amount of scorn, as though being a christian were low, base, pathetic and disgusting. He stopped using gay.
I think I might start using American or Texan as a substitute for gay or homo... because, hey, if you're not an American or a Texan, then it's a valid insult, right?
As for the other issues that were brought up and hammered non-stop, what a joke. "You should get mad at Eric, too, for calling me an ass." and "This was between us so you should leave us alone." What kind of f**king christian-ass texan brings up moronic american points like these and expects to have them taken seriuously? Talking about missing the point.
But nonetheless, I did understand you earlier and we both agree that I needed to start using better choice of words next time around.
