really? This person also reported my post suggesting that I was bribed by NI to change the title...seriously, I spend too much time here to put up with this absolute kind of bullshit and attack on my good name.
NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
he hasn't actually done anything yet, talk is cheapHink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:13 ambut we dont need to be raising false alarms either, sorry if you dont agree but I think it was the right call to dial back the tone on the title especially with Matt coming in and doing all he has done.AnX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:22 pm in the works, sure.... when it arrives ppl can turn the alarm off... until then, the pressure has to stay (after all, they were quite happy to continue with the f**k over until they got a lot of neg publicity and were virtually strong armed into finding a solution)
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Actually, he did do a lot, but you wouldn't know any of that.
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
nobody would, until they actually solve the problem (or not) , so what's your point?EvilDragon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:46 am Actually, he did do a lot, but you wouldn't know any of that.
like i said, chit chat on a forum isn't the solution, and many ppl may still be unaware of the problem (as has already been proven) , so changing the topic title is just plain wrong
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- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
the fact is he has demonstrated a clear good faith effort to deal with the situation, I think that deserves respect.AnX wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:06 amhe hasn't actually done anything yet, talk is cheapHink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:13 ambut we dont need to be raising false alarms either, sorry if you dont agree but I think it was the right call to dial back the tone on the title especially with Matt coming in and doing all he has done.AnX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:22 pm in the works, sure.... when it arrives ppl can turn the alarm off... until then, the pressure has to stay (after all, they were quite happy to continue with the f**k over until they got a lot of neg publicity and were virtually strong armed into finding a solution)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
Maybe, but I’ve seen companies send people to deal with customer backlashes only for it to turn out to be an utterly insincere act and nothing was really done, or the person they sent got thrown under the bus (and also nothing was done). This situation still has yet to show any actual results other than good-sounding talk from one NI employee.Hink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:10 amthe fact is he has demonstrated a clear good faith effort to deal with the situation, I think that deserves respect.AnX wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:06 amhe hasn't actually done anything yet, talk is cheapHink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:13 ambut we dont need to be raising false alarms either, sorry if you dont agree but I think it was the right call to dial back the tone on the title especially with Matt coming in and doing all he has done.AnX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:22 pm in the works, sure.... when it arrives ppl can turn the alarm off... until then, the pressure has to stay (after all, they were quite happy to continue with the f**k over until they got a lot of neg publicity and were virtually strong armed into finding a solution)
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I disagree...I think the backlash if they went back on this would be worse for NI, meanwhile people are getting unduly alarmed. If you got a problem with it pm ben, dan meffy, gary, kev to change it back...but right now I'm leaving it as is...no matter what I do it doesn't please everyone
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
That's why people should wait until facts are laid out. Instead of spinning weird consipracy theories everywhere.Jace-BeOS wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:31 pmMaybe, but I’ve seen companies send people to deal with customer backlashes only for it to turn out to be an utterly insincere act and nothing was really done, or the person they sent got thrown under the bus (and also nothing was done). This situation still has yet to show any actual results other than good-sounding talk from one NI employee.Hink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:10 amthe fact is he has demonstrated a clear good faith effort to deal with the situation, I think that deserves respect.AnX wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:06 amhe hasn't actually done anything yet, talk is cheapHink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:13 ambut we dont need to be raising false alarms either, sorry if you dont agree but I think it was the right call to dial back the tone on the title especially with Matt coming in and doing all he has done.AnX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:22 pm in the works, sure.... when it arrives ppl can turn the alarm off... until then, the pressure has to stay (after all, they were quite happy to continue with the f**k over until they got a lot of neg publicity and were virtually strong armed into finding a solution)
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Some people speak as if code grows in orchards, waiting to be picked
like an orange. Maybe a few fundamental libs/modules or?
It follows that they think any old coder could qwerty into
software developed over a decade or more, and meld it
into a modern system without breakage, and that within a week.
All the while the beancounters, lawyers, stakeholders
and CTO types are mud-wrestling in conference room A
I predict that something good will come of all this
(and I must include new discoveries made using 'old' NI products,
as part of 'this')
Cheers
like an orange. Maybe a few fundamental libs/modules or?
It follows that they think any old coder could qwerty into
software developed over a decade or more, and meld it
into a modern system without breakage, and that within a week.
All the while the beancounters, lawyers, stakeholders
and CTO types are mud-wrestling in conference room A
I predict that something good will come of all this
(and I must include new discoveries made using 'old' NI products,
as part of 'this')
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 6214 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
I'm not up in arms or anything, but the new title is much less descriptive of the discussion at hand. Why would you be surprised that the flat softening of the title is met with less than enthusiasm? The topic is still about the discontinuation of activation, whether NI are going to backpedal and actually fix the issue or not. The title "NI activation thread" is as generic as it gets, and has nothing to do with the subject really.Hink wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:07 pm I disagree...I think the backlash if they went back on this would be worse for NI, meanwhile people are getting unduly alarmed. If you got a problem with it pm ben, dan meffy, gary, kev to change it back...but right now I'm leaving it as is...no matter what I do it doesn't please everyone