W10 pro vs W11 free
- KVRer
- 12 posts since 20 Mar, 2020
What do I lose if I start using W11 free versus the W10 pro I currently have?
Do the plugins I got with my paid W10 pro be working in W11 free?
Are there functions in W10 pro that are not available in W11 free?
I do use the basic MIDI editing functions of W10 pro, are these available in W11 free?
In general, am I losing lots to switch to W11 free, or do the core functions upgrades in W11 free is enough to warrant a switch over?
I know, the easy answer is just get the upgrade to W11 pro but, in this time of crisis and confinement, i am not in a position to spent money at this moment.
Thank you.
Do the plugins I got with my paid W10 pro be working in W11 free?
Are there functions in W10 pro that are not available in W11 free?
I do use the basic MIDI editing functions of W10 pro, are these available in W11 free?
In general, am I losing lots to switch to W11 free, or do the core functions upgrades in W11 free is enough to warrant a switch over?
I know, the easy answer is just get the upgrade to W11 pro but, in this time of crisis and confinement, i am not in a position to spent money at this moment.
Thank you.
Waveform 11 pro, Windows 10, Intel i5-4690, 16Gb RAM (desktop), 500Gb EVO 850, Focusrite 2i2 (1st gen)
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 12 Mar, 2013 from Vladivostok
https://www.tracktion.com/products/wave ... e-versions
Do you mean plugins such a Essential DAW? Then - yes.Do the plugins I got with my paid W10 pro be working in W11 free?
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- KVRAF
- 1603 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Keep in mind that opening and saving a 10 project in 11 is not easily reversible. Work with backup copies until you commit to 11 exclusively.
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- KVRist
- 195 posts since 17 Jun, 2007
Hi,
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DAW essentials are 'normal' and external VST to be used in any DAW, so not bound to W10.Kott wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:31 amDo you mean plugins such a Essential DAW? Then - yes.Do the plugins I got with my paid W10 pro be working in W11 free?
horst
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 26 Jan, 2020
TTC1 wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:18 am What do I lose if I start using W11 free versus the W10 pro I currently have?
You'll loose:
dRowAudio wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:12 am - Groove Doctor
- Actions panel
- Edit groups
- Track snapshots
- Track editor
- Subtractive
- Artisan Collection
- Drum Sampler
- Macros
- Modifiers (except LFO)
- Faceplates
- Chord Track
- Multi Sampler
- Master mix
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- KVRian
- 772 posts since 1 Oct, 2019
The free versions, in my case T7, W10 and after some weeks W11, are good and complete basic DAWs. I'm happy that Tracktion made them available.
I don't need or miss any of the pro-only features in the list that sughosha reposted. I compose my music in a notation editor and need a DAW just for recording audio, mixing and as a vst host for sound and FX plugins.
I expect that the gap between the free and pro versions grows as the years go by. It doesn't matter unless Tracktion decides to provide a decent notation editor with the pro version.
I don't need or miss any of the pro-only features in the list that sughosha reposted. I compose my music in a notation editor and need a DAW just for recording audio, mixing and as a vst host for sound and FX plugins.
I expect that the gap between the free and pro versions grows as the years go by. It doesn't matter unless Tracktion decides to provide a decent notation editor with the pro version.
I don't record any instruments live, I construct my music.
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- KVRist
- 195 posts since 17 Jun, 2007
One big advantage for me and not mentioned so very often is that waveform 11 left behind it's one window GUI. For me the reason to consider the upgrade.
Mmhh, but that is not related to free or not.
Mmhh, but that is not related to free or not.
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- KVRist
- 97 posts since 19 May, 2005
I very strongly vote for a real version management of File-formats in T. What i desperately need is something like "save as .... (W10-format)" and so on.Watchful wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 am Keep in mind that opening and saving a 10 project in 11 is not easily reversible. Work with backup copies until you commit to 11 exclusively.
The way it is now it is a blind man´s game..... and you never now what you are getting when opening an edit. And that way it is dangerous to try out the new version on existing edits....
Been that way forever but still .....
Cheers
Marc
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- KVRian
- 772 posts since 1 Oct, 2019
My vote for this too.mchoffmann wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:58 am I very strongly vote for a real version management of File-formats in T. What i desperately need is something like "save as .... (W10-format)" and so on.
When or if every new version introduces changes in file format, how old versions should be covered? I would like T7 and onwards.
I don't record any instruments live, I construct my music.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
That won't happen. How would it work, if you had an edit that used W11 features, and you wanted to save in T7 format? Would the features (and the effect they had on the sound) just be removed? That would ruin the work you'd done.
If you want to test a new version, with existing projects, just copy the project, and edit that one.
If you want to test a new version, with existing projects, just copy the project, and edit that one.
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- KVRian
- 526 posts since 7 May, 2007 from Angus,Scotland
That is what I do.chico.co.uk wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:59 pm If you want to test a new version, with existing projects, just copy the project, and edit that one.
I have separate project folder's from T2 onwards, if I want to work on something from a previous version of T or W in the lates version of the DAW, I copy and paste it to a new folder. Which now will be W11.
Not really a hassle to do.
Windows 10 / Intel core i7 2700k @ 3.50GHz / 16GB Ram / Emu 1212m Sound Card / Ati Radeon HD5400 Series G/Card
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- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
There is a big warning when you open an Edit from a previous version that it won't be compatible with that version if you save it, and then it asks if you want to carry on or close it. I'm not sure what else we can do here?
As chico.co.uk says, there's no way we can save in an older format as the Edit could have features that can't be loaded in older versions and we've also changed the XML format to be better in recent times, there's no translation back to older XML formats.
We've always promised to be forwards compatible (which it should from the first T version) but we simply can't offer backwards compatibility.
As chico.co.uk says, there's no way we can save in an older format as the Edit could have features that can't be loaded in older versions and we've also changed the XML format to be better in recent times, there's no translation back to older XML formats.
We've always promised to be forwards compatible (which it should from the first T version) but we simply can't offer backwards compatibility.
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- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
That's not exactly true. We didn't leave it behind, we simply added ways to un-dock panels in to windows. A single screen UI is great if you only have a single screen but it wastes a lot of space if you have multiple screens.midklang wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:14 am One big advantage for me and not mentioned so very often is that waveform 11 left behind it's one window GUI. For me the reason to consider the upgrade.
Mmhh, but that is not related to free or not.
We're just trying to make sure people with both setups are accommodated.
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- KVRist
- 64 posts since 20 Sep, 2019
And a big thanx for that, good thinking ! 
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- KVRist
- 97 posts since 19 May, 2005
Excuse me if i am not convinced, i work a lot with CAD-Packages which have the same problem and can do it. I am not asking for backwards compatibility, but a transparent handling of versions. The way it is now I am not notified which format the file has that i open. It is obvious that saving in older formats will result in a certain loss of data since the featureset is not the same. The program then should issue a warning similar to the one existing. Still there are situations where that would be my way to go.dRowAudio wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:30 pm
... there's no way we can save in an older format as the Edit could have features that can't be loaded in older versions and we've also changed the XML format to be better in recent times, there's no translation back to older XML formats.
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Cheers
Marc
