Roland Cloud

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KVRAF
7133 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 am

Angle Loss wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 am
Still no JX-8p, Juno 6/60, Alpha Junos, V-Synth, JD-800, polyphonic versions of the mono analogs, etc

...but are some pianos. ffs
I really feel like we’re not going to see new virtual analogs added to Roland Cloud until new hardware boutiques come out. Until then, I suspect it will be more SRX plugins.

electro
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4646 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:27 am

I understand Roland AIRA Boutiques were already discontinued, and AIRA itself may even be history. You can't find a TR-09 or D-05 for example.
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EnochLight
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:35 am

electro wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:42 am
Any sign of direct purchase for dongled licenses? Subscription will never happen.
Direct purchase? No, and probably never. But what's the difference between that and paying for a 12 months sub only, and getting that 1 free offline "forever" license at the end of the sub? In the meantime, you get access to everything for 12 months to decide which one you want to keep. :party:
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 am

The problem is the authorization method (online), not the monetary arrangement.
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EnochLight
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:39 am

electro wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:27 am
I understand Roland AIRA Boutiques were already discontinued, and AIRA itself may even be history. You can't find a TR-09 or D-05 for example.
I'm still seeing many of the Aria stuff sold brand new at Sweetwater (US only), and many are in stock as of today. TB-3, MX-1, System-1, etc...
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EnochLight
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:41 am

electro wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 am
The problem is the authorization method (online), not the monetary arrangement.
You can run offline with the sub - a constant Internet connection is no longer needed. You just have to authenticate every so often (I can't remember how often though).
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Shiek927
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546 posts since 14 May, 2014

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:12 am

Angle Loss wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 am
Still no JX-8p, Juno 6/60, Alpha Junos, V-Synth, JD-800, polyphonic versions of the mono analogs, etc

...but are some pianos. ffs
Very soon. They literally have no choice because the only SRX card left is the Dynamic Drums card. Once that comes out, they have to move onto something else :lol:

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EnochLight
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 am

I’m willing to wager that doing their “ACB” emulations of classic synths requires a lot more work than these romplers they’ve been releasing. Probably why we’re seeing so many sample based stuff instead of VA’s. Sucks, but it is what it is.
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Shiek927
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546 posts since 14 May, 2014

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:32 am

EnochLight wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 am
I’m willing to wager that doing their “ACB” emulations of classic synths requires a lot more work than these romplers they’ve been releasing. Probably why we’re seeing so many sample based stuff instead of VA’s. Sucks, but it is what it is.
Probably. The SRX cards have the same GUI and are pretty much the same architecture. Once they nailed that down, the rest logically shouldn't have been harder - even though it's still taking very long.

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KVRer
3 posts since 15 Apr, 2011

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:06 am

An emulation of a Korg Radius ,would be great.

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Kumi_27
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:09 am

3853306 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:06 am
An emulation of a Korg Radius ,would be great.
Probably would, but I don't see it happening at Roland :shrug:

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KVRer
3 posts since 15 Apr, 2011

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:37 am

Yeah Kumi_27 correct ,i mean from Korg .

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9541 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:48 am

Angle Loss wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 am
Still no JX-8p, V-Synth, JD-800, polyphonic versions of the mono analogs, etc
Yeah, that would be awsome.

I'm tired of useless SRX expansions. I don't even bother installing them.
Fernando (FMR)

PAK
KVRian
891 posts since 20 Feb, 2003

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:53 am

electro wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:27 am
I understand Roland AIRA Boutiques were already discontinued, and AIRA itself may even be history. You can't find a TR-09 or D-05 for example.
Boutiques are all limited edition runs. Once sold out, unless they do another run, that's all you get. The System AIRA (plug outs) is its own product series, but doesn't seem to be getting much attention now Roland have moved to their new platform.
EnochLight wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:41 am
You can run offline with the sub - a constant Internet connection is no longer needed. You just have to authenticate every so often (I can't remember how often though).
This is actually correct in theory, but is incorrect in practice. Each plugin needs to be authorised every 7 days. The problem is, when you authorise one it doesn't authorise all, and plugins don't ask to be authorised until you open them. So you might need to authorise different plugins 7 days a week based on your usage, and the more plugins you install the more likely that is to be true!

The same authorisation continues to be required for plugins you "own" (YOURS-4-LIFE etc). However, unless they changed it, I think they offer 2 plugins per yer, rather than 1. Though nobody seems quite sure of the criteria to qualify someone, other than you apparently need to have joined before 2019.

electro
KVRAF
4646 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:52 am

PAK wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:53 am
Each plugin needs to be authorised every 7 days. The problem is, when you authorise one it doesn't authorise all, and plugins don't ask to be authorised until you open them. So you might need to authorise different plugins 7 days a week based on your usage, and the more plugins you install the more likely that is to be true!

The same authorisation continues to be required for plugins you "own" (YOURS-4-LIFE etc).
Absolutely unacceptable IMO. Either dongle it or count me out.
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