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- KVRian
- 662 posts since 12 Jul, 2013
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11511 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Excalibur for $9 is a great deal.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:06 pm$9robotmonkey wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:17 am EA products at 29$ coming soon to music store near you. I'm ok with that.
I thought the sound was interesting when I demoed it years ago. Had that "slick, 90's" sound. Different than other things I already had. I only didn't buy it because the cost to awful GUI workflow ratio was out of whack. For $9 it's a frigging deal for me.
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
For $9? Where??Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:06 pm$9robotmonkey wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:17 am EA products at 29$ coming soon to music store near you. I'm ok with that.
Just bought Excalibur.
Ok, got it... Plugin Boutique. Damn no-brainers.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
I wouldn't get too excited over iZotope deals.... you basically make a deal with the devil..
Here's how it works: They get you into their world with apparently awesome deals and then you end up buying the product(s) over and over again with so called version updates, over time you will give them more money than buying the product at full prince once + fairly low priced version updates.
Here's how it works: They get you into their world with apparently awesome deals and then you end up buying the product(s) over and over again with so called version updates, over time you will give them more money than buying the product at full prince once + fairly low priced version updates.
- KVRAF
- 4431 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
i don't see it that way. i got lots of their stuff for peanuts (Iris 2, Elements versions of RX, Ozone and Neutron, now Excalibur and Phoenix), and then upgraded to Ozone 9 Advanced + Neutron 9 Advanced + Nectar 3 Advanced for less than what any of their full price is. these versions don't expire so i don't have to buy any future upgrades, but even if i do, there's always an upgrade bundle available that's still less than full price of what any of the individual products go for.
now, you may argue that their real value is what you get them for on a sale (similarly to how any Waves plugin's real value is squarely at $29), and that's fine. but i would then point out that this "real" price is much less than the list price, and it's actually pretty reasonable for what you get (Ozone + Neutron + Nectar are more than worth the ~$130 i paid for them). now, you may not need all of that stuff, but then no one forces you to buy it either. just use your $9 reverb and be done with it. i, for example, didn't buy Trash 2 or BreakTweaker/Stutter Edit when they were on a $10 sale, as i simply don't use these kinds of plugins.
now, you may argue that their real value is what you get them for on a sale (similarly to how any Waves plugin's real value is squarely at $29), and that's fine. but i would then point out that this "real" price is much less than the list price, and it's actually pretty reasonable for what you get (Ozone + Neutron + Nectar are more than worth the ~$130 i paid for them). now, you may not need all of that stuff, but then no one forces you to buy it either. just use your $9 reverb and be done with it. i, for example, didn't buy Trash 2 or BreakTweaker/Stutter Edit when they were on a $10 sale, as i simply don't use these kinds of plugins.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
@3ee: As long as I'm not forced to upgrade, I don't see the problem. In fact, what you described sounds like a valid business practice to me.
I would have never bought Excalibur full price, BTW. For $9, I gratefully take it.
I would have never bought Excalibur full price, BTW. For $9, I gratefully take it.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11511 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I don't think I've actually updated any Izotope plugin actually. I've gotten a few at great prices, and they continued to do what I bought them to do.
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- KVRAF
- 2179 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Same here. I got most of those either free or for $8 then that allowed me to have a good price on the Ozone/Neutron/Nectar Advanced bundle, and frankly, Ozone 9 Advanced is pretty great so I don't see any need to upgrade for quite some time (if ever).Burillo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:18 pm i don't see it that way. i got lots of their stuff for peanuts (Iris 2, Elements versions of RX, Ozone and Neutron, now Excalibur and Phoenix), and then upgraded to Ozone 9 Advanced + Neutron 9 Advanced + Nectar 3 Advanced for less than what any of their full price is.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
There was no need to upgrade from Ozone 8 either, the sound and functionality are near identical, save a couple new features.Mr Arkadin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:55 pm Ozone 9 Advanced is pretty great so I don't see any need to upgrade for quite some time (if ever).
Also, Exponential Audio stuff remains more constant. Excalibur is 5 years old (I believe). Not sure if there's a v2 coming at any point, but even if it did there would be no need to upgrade from the current feature set either.
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 12 Jan, 2016
- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
Waiting for Godot.
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 12 Jan, 2016
Good reverb?
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 1889 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Nimbus and R4 are GREAT reverbs. Among my 2 favorite and most-used (along with Sonsig-A and sometimes VVV). I'm buying Excalibur now for $9 because... I can. And I'd wanted it long ago. I'm sure I can find $9 of use for it.
Of course, I paid $135 for Nimbus new around the time of the acquisition, and $50 for R4 "used" recently. And just ended up with 2 more licenses because I bought MPS3 to get RX7 for some upcoming work (and figured it'd normally cost $270 for RX7 to upgrade from Elements). I'll be selling my old 2 licenses and keeping the new.
Of course, I paid $135 for Nimbus new around the time of the acquisition, and $50 for R4 "used" recently. And just ended up with 2 more licenses because I bought MPS3 to get RX7 for some upcoming work (and figured it'd normally cost $270 for RX7 to upgrade from Elements). I'll be selling my old 2 licenses and keeping the new.
- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
Reverberating for decades now and still going strong.