Yeah it took a couple years even after it had been shown publicly.Lucastyle wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:35 pmI remember Dave Spiers mentioning something about it somewhere but luckily I was not a KVR regular by then or wasn't paying to much attentionEchoes in the Attic wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:39 pmI guess you weren't around when Imposcar 2 was announced.Lucastyle wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:32 pm I hope it sees the light of day soon this wait has felt longer than any other product, maybe cytomic's the scream is comparable and with this stay at home situation I'm desperate for new toys to put my mind into for distraction.![]()
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This thing sounds really good. Would be very surprised if kevin makes an edm soundset though, and not a retro one.
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You had serious GAS for an Oberheim synth emulation. But you don't think you would hear the difference between synths with entirely different oscs, filters and envelopes?SLiC wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:36 pmI'm not sure I would know or hear the difference, I am a guitaristIngonator wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:46 pmThis comparison is quite pointless as Bx_oberhausen is based on a discrete SEM filter design while the OB-Xa used 2 CEM 3320 filter chips per voice (one chip for the SVF 2-pole LPF and one for the OTA cascade 4-pole LPF).SLiC wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:13 pm bx_Oberhausen pretty much cured my gas for an OB sound so I am in no hurry. If you are waiting and you haven't tried it you realy should....its pretty easy to get hold of for very little dosh with all the PA sales and vouchers around!
It not just the filter but also the oscillators and envelopes are different.
The point is that if you want a synth that sounds similar to a SEM then the OB-Xa is a wrong choice no matter if it is the hardware synth or a plugin. On the other hand the OB-Xa sounds great on it's own and same is true for the plugin (which i am testing and and doing sound design with at the moment...).
Besides that the upocoming OB-Xa plugin includes multiple advanced/additional features that make it more versatile than the real thing.
I either like the way a synth sounds or I don't - Bx_oberhausen soumds very good to me (and I though the Arturia SEM sounded pretty good to) so maybe I will like the OB-Xa or maybe I won't- but as I cant play with a demo, I will have to play with other things!
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I hope Sonic Syndicate knock this out at a fair price given we already have some good OB variations at a fair price point.
£50.00 tops after which I am out.
£50.00 tops after which I am out.
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The SEM (Arturia and bx) are the only Oberheim synth emulations I currently own. I would undoubtedly hear 'the difference' but not necessarily prefer the OB-Xa over the SEM as I have not the the OB-Xa emulation yet, I did hear (demo) the SEM and I liked it so I bought it....so the only information I have so far is that the OB-Xa emulation won't sound like the SEM emulation!v1o wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:57 pmYou had serious GAS for an Oberheim synth emulation. But you don't think you would hear the difference between synths with entirely different oscs, filters and envelopes?SLiC wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:36 pmI'm not sure I would know or hear the difference, I am a guitaristIngonator wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:46 pmThis comparison is quite pointless as Bx_oberhausen is based on a discrete SEM filter design while the OB-Xa used 2 CEM 3320 filter chips per voice (one chip for the SVF 2-pole LPF and one for the OTA cascade 4-pole LPF).SLiC wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:13 pm bx_Oberhausen pretty much cured my gas for an OB sound so I am in no hurry. If you are waiting and you haven't tried it you realy should....its pretty easy to get hold of for very little dosh with all the PA sales and vouchers around!
It not just the filter but also the oscillators and envelopes are different.
The point is that if you want a synth that sounds similar to a SEM then the OB-Xa is a wrong choice no matter if it is the hardware synth or a plugin. On the other hand the OB-Xa sounds great on it's own and same is true for the plugin (which i am testing and and doing sound design with at the moment...).
Besides that the upocoming OB-Xa plugin includes multiple advanced/additional features that make it more versatile than the real thing.
I either like the way a synth sounds or I don't - Bx_oberhausen soumds very good to me (and I though the Arturia SEM sounded pretty good to) so maybe I will like the OB-Xa or maybe I won't- but as I cant play with a demo, I will have to play with other things!
Also comparing software emulations (especially ones that are not released) isn't like comparing real old hardware, the emulations can differ greatly- the Arturia SEM has a second LFO, noise and a sub oscillator!
I do own Legend and have the Behringer Model D so I know they can make good emulation by way own comparison (I read that the Behringer Model D is quite close to the Moog D, I only have a Mother 32 so can't comment). Either way, I don't have an OB-Xa to compare the new emulation to when it comes out, so it will just be a case of do I like the sound more than what I have and/or does it cover differing bases to the SEM emulations I have.
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Sonic Syndicate?Kian Russell wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 pm I hope Sonic Syndicate knock this out at a fair price given we already have some good OB variations at a fair price point.
£50.00 tops after which I am out.
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you're outKian Russell wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 pm I hope Sonic Syndicate knock this out at a fair price given we already have some good OB variations at a fair price point.
£50.00 tops after which I am out.
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The Swedish death metal band ?chk071 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:20 pmSonic Syndicate?Kian Russell wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 pm I hope Sonic Syndicate knock this out at a fair price given we already have some good OB variations at a fair price point.
£50.00 tops after which I am out.
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really?Touch The Universe wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:25 pm This thing sounds really good. Would be very surprised if kevin makes an edm soundset though, and not a retro one.
I'd be amazed if he didn't release an "edm" bank within 3 months of release.
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It's early to discuss pricing since it's still in beta, but I believe a proper OB emulation could very easily be priced at $199 USD and up.AnX wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:27 pmyou're outKian Russell wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 pm I hope Sonic Syndicate knock this out at a fair price given we already have some good OB variations at a fair price point.
£50.00 tops after which I am out.![]()
Hell, I ended up buying an OB-6 because the OB plugins to date have been a let down in comparison. I would have spent $500 on a proper plugin, because that still would've saved me $1800.
