New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

tasmaniandevil
KVRian
873 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Germany

Post Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:00 am

skottish wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:26 am
It's happening at note on. The GUI fires up, is responsive, and I haven't been able to reproduced it in any other way. Zebrify seems to work perfectly.
Thanks for the detailed info.
I've installed the latest Ardour 6 pre build (pre1.156) and can play Zebra just fine (that's in UbuntuStudio 17.04 though).
Not really sure what to do, but since it works in Reaper, and since there've been bugs in Ardour which affected our plugins in the past, I'd suggest to file a bug report with them to see if they can find out what's happening.
Sorry that I can't be more of a help.

Subarumannen
KVRist
113 posts since 6 Nov, 2011

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:14 pm

Ok. Thanks for the answer. That makes sense.

/Anders
tasmaniandevil wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:48 am
Subarumannen wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 am
Some U-he stuff works ok and some are working but not if I try to open the GUI
Filed a bug on the Ardour bug tracking portal but they point me to U-he for a solution.
The crash when opening the GUI in Ardour was fixed in the revision 9775 builds posted in the first post of this thread.
ZebraHZ 9724 and Repro 9669 will crash, since they are not revision 9775.

skottish
KVRist
54 posts since 11 Feb, 2018

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:10 pm

tasmaniandevil wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:00 am
skottish wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:26 am
It's happening at note on. The GUI fires up, is responsive, and I haven't been able to reproduced it in any other way. Zebrify seems to work perfectly.
Thanks for the detailed info.
I've installed the latest Ardour 6 pre build (pre1.156) and can play Zebra just fine (that's in UbuntuStudio 17.04 though).
Not really sure what to do, but since it works in Reaper, and since there've been bugs in Ardour which affected our plugins in the past, I'd suggest to file a bug report with them to see if they can find out what's happening.
Sorry that I can't be more of a help.
Interestingly, 9775 in Reaper after some time starts to produce 100% CPU use on one core and cripples the graphics system wide. As far as I can tell, all other u-he plugins work fine including HZ. The trouble is, I really want Ardour to work and something is seriously wrong with Zebra2, the 9775 build, and something related to the graphics sub-system on my system. I've tried rolling back the Xserver and Mesa to no avail. I supposes I can change to a different kernel and see if there's a bug related to my GPU that got introduced somewhere.

I've owned Zebra for years and every time I want to start to use it, there's something wrong: stuck notes, pops, crashes... I wish Zebra 3 were here.

tasmaniandevil
KVRian
873 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Germany

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:38 am

skottish wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:10 pm
I've owned Zebra for years and every time I want to start to use it, there's something wrong: stuck notes, pops, crashes... I wish Zebra 3 were here.
Zebra2 and ZebraHZ are basically identical, apart from the skins and the few additional options in the ZebraHZ plugin. So if ZebraHZ works, but there is an issue in Zebra2, it might be either due to a difference in the plugin preferences, or a difference in the used plugin format, or a problem with the installation. You could also try to switch to another skin, to see if the problem persists.

And if you have ideas how we can ensure complete compatibility and stability in a Linux system which has been built from the ground up by the user, with a configuration which is very likely unique to this one single user, then please let us know. :wink:
Unfortunately, the world of Linux, with all its different distros, and desktop environments, and kernels, is a vast world, which makes it nearly impossible to guarantee full compatibility with each and every possible configuration.
But if we can help, we will try our best, of course.

skottish
KVRist
54 posts since 11 Feb, 2018

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:37 pm

tasmaniandevil wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:38 am
But if we can help, we will try our best, of course.
Check this out. I discovered under Ardour that I can use FMO, Comb, and Noise, as sound sources and Zebra2/HZ does not crash. If I use Osc, it crashes on note on regardless if it's from an external keyboard the or the internal one. As well, the lane can be muted and Zebra/Ardour still crashes.

EDIT: If the OSC volume is set to 0, then Ardour doesn't crash.

I'm still trying to get HZ to start the runaway process in Reaper like Zebra2 does. I don't remember it happening with any other plugin, but then again, they all work in Ardour as far as I know. I'll keep trying to see if I can find the pattern with this one.

tasmaniandevil
KVRian
873 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Germany

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:18 am

skottish wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:37 pm
Check this out. I discovered under Ardour that I can use FMO, Comb, and Noise, as sound sources and Zebra2/HZ does not crash. If I use Osc, it crashes on note on regardless if it's from an external keyboard the or the internal one. As well, the lane can be muted and Zebra/Ardour still crashes.
That's very precise, thanks for this.
I wish I could reproduce the problem, but I can't.
I'll ask Alexandre to have a look, maybe he has an idea.

skottish
KVRist
54 posts since 11 Feb, 2018

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:53 am

tasmaniandevil wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:18 am
skottish wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:37 pm
Check this out. I discovered under Ardour that I can use FMO, Comb, and Noise, as sound sources and Zebra2/HZ does not crash. If I use Osc, it crashes on note on regardless if it's from an external keyboard the or the internal one. As well, the lane can be muted and Zebra/Ardour still crashes.
That's very precise, thanks for this.
I wish I could reproduce the problem, but I can't.
I'll ask Alexandre to have a look, maybe he has an idea.
Zebra2 9775 seems to have magically fixed itself in some recent Ardour build or whatnot. I don't know if the runaway CPU use thing in Reaper is still an issue as I was running HZ there. So, I'll mark this is as "not broken enough to say that it seems to be broken!"

*** EDIT ***

Sadly, Repro 9669 didn't get the same magical treatment

*** EDIT 2 ***

The single-core 100% CPU issue with Zebra2 9775 is present in either Ardour or Reaper. It does not seem to happen with ZebraHZ. I does happen frequently during standard playing/tweaking.
Last edited by skottish on Sat May 02, 2020 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

knowix
KVRist
252 posts since 12 Nov, 2011

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:45 pm

I've got Hive and Zebra up and running in Reaper on a Chromebook, via Crostini. Main limitation, as far as I can see, is the lack of USB midi support. Though I'm sure latency will also come up as an issue.

glokraw
KVRAF
7481 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Sat May 02, 2020 10:12 am

Had to look up that pasta-sounding thing, (yeah, I'm that guy :dog: )
but thats great news in general. (I did break down
and make a lasagna-feed :wink: )

There may be a gazillion more Chromebooks
being handed out soon by taxpayer funded agencies, to be
the new healthy classrooms in the sky, so the Reaper, U-he
and other bean-counters might do well to create educational
license products for that emerging market :hyper:

If only our High School bands had an edu Hive license,
it would have put the whole lazy brass section on notice :hyper:

mevla
KVRAF
2797 posts since 3 Nov, 2015

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Thu May 14, 2020 4:08 pm

glokraw wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 10:12 am
There may be a gazillion more Chromebooks being handed out soon by taxpayer funded agencies, to be the new healthy classrooms in the sky, so the Reaper, U-he and other bean-counters might do well to create educational license products for that emerging market :hyper:
The LMS software market is aiming at large business numbers such as $250 billion worldwide. See Bloomberg for instance. Of course, the current school system must be dismantled and moved to online services. But once this is done (!) supporting software, adapted to LMS frameworks, for instance to learn music, could benefit from that business.

The way things are going I think that the school system will be re-oriented. The business opportunity is too important for a sinking capitalist system to let go of such an opportunity.

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spktkpkt
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107 posts since 17 Apr, 2012 from Germany

Re: New Linux builds, updated to rev. 9775

Post Sat May 23, 2020 8:38 am

I just want to say "Thank you!" for the continuous work on the Linux builds. I bought Repro and Presswerk and currently testing other ports. I'm very interested in Uhbik 2, because of the revised GUI (i use a 4K display, the older plugins are very small) and maybe new features/algorithms.

If it is of any interest, i use Renoise on Clear Linux.

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